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CMS: Mambo, Drupal and SEO

Discussion in 'Drupal' started by e10, May 27, 2005.

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    I don´t know if this is the right place to ask these questions. I didn´t find any thread related to CMS.

    I have a site which was built in FP with no templates. It uses only plain html, no dbases or anything else. I really want to do something with the site - make it easier to manage, modernise it, make more money from it ... or something.

    It has been suggested in another thread that I use a CMS like Mambo and I am interested in this. I´ve also found Drupal mentioned.

    My site currently does very well in the search engines -esp. G - and I´d hate to jeopardise that in any wayl. I´d really like some feedback about seoíng for CMS. I suppose as my site is established and reasonably well ranked, flexibility of file names would be an issue.

    I found this article which quite honestly doesn´t look too positive as far as I can see.

    If you are using Mambo, Drupal or any other open source CMS and are successfully seoíng would you comment here please?
     
    e10, May 27, 2005 IP
  2. grantmoney

    grantmoney Well-Known Member

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    I went through the usual "testing every cms" stage and found that plone was by far the most flexible and did exactly what i wanted to do. The added bonus was it has very seo friendly urls (no modrewrite needed) and uses semantic code (so h1 h2 all in the right places).

    Now here's the downside, it requires zope to be compiled for it to work properly (i found the debian package was very very bad), needs python (which it's all based on (so no more php!!!)), it is a little slow so you need to cache your pages using apache or squid, and it has a fairly large learning curve for the developer (if you want to build your own applications or play with templates). If you don't mind spending some time mucking around with stuff, it's def worth using as nothing i tried can touch it.
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    I find Mambo pretty flexible. I use the 404 SEO component, which is just a case of installing it which takes about 30 seconds. It rewrites all of the URLS to include the page/article title and the section heading. I'm using it at www.seo-service.biz if you want to take a look.
     
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    I recommending mambo too.
    See at http://www. opensourcecms.com/ the whole cms programs with live demo, take a tour and make you self a oppinion.
     
    daGenius, May 27, 2005 IP
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  7. DarrenC

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    Mambo for sure! A lesson I've learnt though be VERY careful about downloading scripts, especially PHP programs because you could be using a script that is riddled with security holes.

    I downloaded a PHP program script for my hobby website (not related to travel) and someone found that I was using that script and obviously knew they was an hole in it and basically hacked me.

    I'm sooo not downloading programs again.. lesson learnt! :)
     
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    A script which used by most webmasters are always danger to find out a security leck! But good supported scripts are always updated.
    If you programming self a phpscript it is very safe because no one know it :) but phpnuke or mambo are famous scripts... got it?
     
    daGenius, May 27, 2005 IP
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    Yup sure have dagenius, but my example wasnt referring to MAMBO or any other CRM program, and the program is not famous, but still it had a few security loops that could of cause me serious problems if I didn't back up my hobby site and my hosting company weren't on the ball.

    I just feel webmasters should be weary of the potential pitfalls, because I'd not want it to happen to anyone else.
     
    DarrenC, May 28, 2005 IP
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    I will also throw a vote in for Mambo. I use it on numerous sites and I can do anything with it easily. Also, there is a huge support network that is always creating new components modules and templates to help users out.

    You can always check the following to try them out:

    http://opensourcecms.com/

    -Jon
     
    webinv, Jun 8, 2005 IP
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    The page gives a 404 at present.

    I have to say I built my own CMS because none of the php contenders did everything I wanted (at the time) and I like to play around with things. If you've got the time I would recommend building your own CMS to suit your needs. I certainly don't have any problems with SEO or rankings on the sites using it.
     
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    I have used mambo and pretty much every other CMS out there, but one of the easiest to use and pretty bare bone CMS's I found was at:

    cmsmadesimple .org

    Im starting to use it to manage most of our sites. Its easy to use, simple and search engine friendly. It may not have all the fancy features of the others but if you are just looking for something to easily manage the site with out all the bells and whistles , I recommend this one.

    Regards
    Hal
     
    evancesolutions, Jun 8, 2005 IP
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    I'm trying mambo out now for a new site, and i have to say it's driving me nuts. i'm having problems figuring out how to link from sections to categories to content, and how to format it the way i want. i can't find a simple tutorial either.

    ugh.
     
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    A good SEO friendly CMS is not just providing url rewritning features. You should get other features such as being able to produce a code clean, with titles, subtitles, etc using H1, H2, etc .. and control the structure of your design to optimise be able to control where the content is actually put in the html code.

    Emmanuel
    http://www.jazar.co.uk, bespoke SEO friendly CMS
     
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    I just installed mambo for the first time today, it was the first time for any CMS as well....It's finally installed and I am just sat here completly confused as to what to do next...looks like a steep learning curve after dreamweaver.

    I tried installing it via fantastico and it needed the public_html folder deleting then it couldn't create it with the right permissions

    I tried a manual install and none of the installation folder was in the download hence it failed to show me the set up page.

    The Install instructions fail to mention any permission changes

    I eventually got it installed via Fantastico in a new subdirectory once again not mentioned in any documentation

    I tried to do a 301 redirect to the mambo front page and got errors,

    Really wondering if I've made the right choice.
     
    Tommo, Aug 12, 2005 IP
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    Give Drupal a shot. It's like a breath of fresh air after Mambo. Mambo looks pretty on the surface, but is in reality a mess that just happens to have excellent marketing (speaking as a coder with intimate knowledge of its internals). Sort of like Microsoft's products ;)

    Also, might not be a bad idea to try out and play with Drupal, Mambo or other CMS systems on your desktop first, before messing around on a server which arguably has a steeper learning curve (as you need to take into account things like Cpanel quirks, MySQL access, permissions, mod_rewrite, Apache settings, etc etc). Just install some of the pre-packaged WAMP (Apache, MySQL, PHP for Windows; assuming you're on Windows) packages available on the net, after which you can install Mambo or Drupal. Should be easy enough.
     
    Willy, Aug 13, 2005 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I don't use Dreamweaver but I wouldn't have thought you could compare the two as they do totally different jobs don't they?

    Anyway, ardent Mambo fan here. It continually surprises me in what it can do out of the box. I've written custom stuff for it because there have been times I've needed something that meets specific requirements for a specific business. As a development framework it's excellent.

    However I threw up a site for my kids bmx club using mambo and free templates and handed it over to another club member to manage with 0 instructions and he's away laughing! In the space of a few hours they got a great site.

    I'm not completely one eyed though and the people who lurve Xoops, Drupal and Typo3 are equally passionate about the choices they've made. So check out Open Source CMS (a mambo site) and have a play with their demos.

    Sarah
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Mambo seems pretty good and they have patches made available.
     
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    Based on my experience in SEOing content served by a CMS, Mambo (with static page address) and PHP-nuke (with Googletapping) are the best ones.
     
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