Clickbank Vs E-Junkie

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Sickthing, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. #1
    I'm thinking of moving to e-junkie.

    It looks like they don't have their own payment processing and I'd have to use 2checkout and Paypal or I could use my Clickbank account but that makes little sense to me. Other than having them deliver the eBook I don't seen any reason to do that.

    Has anybody done any split testing? I don't have a huge amount of sales to really do a good test.

    I'm concerned that only using Paypal will reduce sales. I have a business account so there is the option to use a credit card but I'm not a fan of Paypal and others are not. But it seems l like Clickbanks fees are higher than Paypal. Am I mistake there? I've been with 2checkout for many years. Back in the day, they were horrible but seems like people like them more now. Perhaps they got their act together.

    Perhaps using both is a good idea. I might pick up a few more affiliates and CB's CDR really stinks for the small affiliate and most of mine are small.

    I'm not getting rich on this, a few hundred dollars a month. But I enjoy those few hundred dollars a month and I'm beginning to move to Adwords and probably FB ads. I don't think that will have much impact on the choice of provider to use but if you know something I don't, I'm all ears.

    Anyone willing to share thoughts?

    Thanks for the help.
     
    Sickthing, Feb 11, 2011 IP
  2. mave863

    mave863 Peon

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    eJunkie and Clickbank? Although both are payment processor, but they work on different model. Clickbank more to affiliate and eJunkie more to self selling. They can't be compared. And what you're currently use? 2CO?
     
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  3. Sickthing

    Sickthing Peon

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    Okay, but why do you say that?

    E-junkie has affiliates or am I mistake on that?

    I am using Clickbank now. I have a product for $27 and when I make a sale they take nearly four dollars of that. That is to much, then they also charge you the $2.50 for a direct deposit.

    My main question is will I loose sales if I go to e-junkie? I sent ejunkie an email asking about payment processing and other things, they only answered about half my questions and not very well. I know people rave about CB's customer service but I'm not impressed with them either.
     
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  4. mave863

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    eJunkie also includes affiliate program, but it's not popular. If they have few affiliates of course you can't make huge sales with affiliate, while clickbank has a lot of affiliates, the sales mostly come from affiliates.

    If you're more on self selling, use paypal or similar processors. eJunkie is basically redirecting to paypal. I can't understand why people need it.
     
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    OMG. TWO WHOLE DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS EVERY PAYMENT! THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS!!!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    well honestly it depends what products you can find. If you're having more success by selling products from Clickbank, then stick to that network. It's not really an equal comparison when it comes to "making money online" since that's such a broad term.
     
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  7. Sickthing

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    E-junkie handles the delivery of the product for you. No need for DLguard but you're right about the redirect. Their affiliate program does shave some features that CB does not, like being able to contact affiliates. I don't need to do that very often and I do provide mine with an aweber list for those that wont to be contacted.

    Would be nice to get a couple of huge affiliates but most of my sales come from my own pages or from Adwords. It seems like affiliates could do as well as I do with AdWords but they don't. Hmmm, maybe it is because most affiliates are driving traffic through the use of a banner with a pretty girl and most are clicking for the pretty girl. :) My AdWords are all text so they clicker has a better idea what they are clicking on.

    My conversion rate is good, around 1:80 and that includes affiliates.

    Thanks for pointing out the redirect. Though I knew that, it hadn't really hit home before you said that. I'm pretty sure you just talked me out of giving E-Junkie $5.00 a month. :) Not much money but why give it to them?
     
    Sickthing, Feb 11, 2011 IP
  8. Oskar28

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    I'm also at this crossroads.

    I'm going to launch a product, and I'm still undecided between CB and e-junkie.
    I'll bookmark this thread for more reply.

    How much is the for e-junkie?.. and Clickbank?..

    Thanks!
     
    Oskar28, Feb 14, 2011 IP
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    although thers should not be much impact on your sales...but, i would still advise you to stick to the clickbank...
     
    saibee, Feb 14, 2011 IP
  10. Oskar28

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    For example I have a non-affiliate sale on ClickBank, does the payment will be redirected to my paypal or it will go to Clickbank first?..
     
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  11. Sickthing

    Sickthing Peon

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    There is no fee to signup for E-junkie and it is as little as $5. per month.

    E-junkie doesn't process you're payment. You just send them to your paypal account or you have to pay to sign up with other processors. Usually around $50 which is what you will pay Clickbank too.

    E-junkie will handle delivery of you're digital product making it hard for someone to steal it. However, I've not had problems with that. There is a product many use called download guard that cost around $150. Ejunkie removes the need for that product.

    Ejunkie does have affiliates but not as many from what I can tell. Not any where near as many. Most of my sales come through my own traffic though. I think most of smaller folks will see the same. Depends on what you're selling. Sticking a banner on your website is not that effective as writing about the product. Hmmm, I probably need to stress more on my sites where I advertise it, that the ebook is from me. :)

    Ejunkie's affiliate program allows you to email you're affiliates. Clickbank does not, You can setup Aweber for you're affiliates but many will by pass that. But Clickbank provides far more affiliates. I do get sales from affiliates and the convert about as well as I do with my own traffic. From what I've seen, if affiliates are important go with Clickbank.

    A big bonus with Ejunkie is that as soon as you make a sale, the funds go right into you're account if you use Paypal! That can really matter if you're small and starting out.

    If you want to use Adwords or FB to advertising, you're going to have to pay for ads before the revenue from sales makes it into your account if you use Clickbank.

    Clickbank has a lot of fees. That's the downside of Clickbank. I raised the price of my eBook. It's $37. When I make a sale they take close to $4.00 per sale! You're going to have a fee with Paypal or any other processor. With Paypal it will be less.

    Plus they deduct another $2.50 when they send you a direct deposit or check. You'll have to get paid twice before you can set up direct deposit.

    If you use Clickbank, you're not using your own Paypal account. It is easy to get into trouble with Paypal so I consider that a positive. If someone complains to paypal about your product, Clickbank will have to deal with it. Now it could put your Clickbank account in jeopardy if you cause Clickbank any heat. Being such as small part of Clickbank, you're going to have to really deserve it for that to happen, I'm GUESSING. :)

    I'm tempted to setup another webpage on another domain and sell on both places.

    Clickbank fees make selling via AdWords even more costly and less profitable. Raising my profits by $2.50 a sale, which I think I will accomplish by selling direct through paypal is significant to me.

    I will give E-junkie a try on the other site. If I'm not getting any affiliates then I don't see the point of using e-junkie. Why give them the $5 a month when I can sell direct through Paypal. The fee is not big deal but why do it? Even one affiliate sale a month though would make it make a little money. No signup fee and only $5.00 a month for one product.

    I've ended up answering my own question, I know but I've learned a lot since I asked it. :)

    People rave about CB customer service but I'm not a huge fan. I'm not really that negative on them either. They often try to blow you off with the first contact and my temper is quick when someone does that. :) They sometimes will give you some semi-canned answer without really looking at your account. There setup process is good though and the feedback they give you there can be helpful though sometimes not complete in my case. Some of what they want you to do is good business practice anyway and will help protect you.

    When I asked E-junkie about their fees, they were evasive about setup fees. They don't have any. One my second query with them, they acknowledged their processors may charge a fee. But it's not really their processors are all.

    So, I'm not leaving CB but I might use both on different Websites.

    However, I'm worried about Adwords policy on original content. By sending customers to a different site, I could fall afoul of my content not being original! I've very worried about that and that could get my AdWords account banned for life. If anyone has any comments on that, I'd like to hear them.
     
    Sickthing, Feb 15, 2011 IP
  12. Oskar28

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    Wow!.. You make me decided too.. I'm going to use e junkie first for I am new in this, after I got used to market and profit then I will try clickbank. :)
     
    Oskar28, Feb 15, 2011 IP
  13. Fem

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    yea, I'd also vote for e-junkie - perfect for newbies and very affordable. CB is quite another biz!
     
    Fem, Aug 10, 2011 IP