ClickBank P2P Business?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by FraudEconomy, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #21
    No one said that you promoted by using P2P.

    CB, on April 9th, removed all products having to do with P2P from their Marketplace.
    To be more precise products which : "encourage the unlawful transfer of copyrighted media, such as music, movies, videos, and games (typically known as "P2P" products."
    Most of these were scams anyway. Not worth risking your reputation for, nor your efforts to promote.

    This thread is about the fact that you were apparently requested by CB to erase the P2P part of CB's history from your product.

    I'm NOT saying that you were promoting Clickbank products through P2P.
    Hey I'm NOT even encouraging you to do so.

    What I'm saying is, that the product "Guru Bypass" is all about driving BT traffic to websites, offers, products, or WHY for sale.
    (The other way around people.)
    They primarily use ClickBank as a target in their examples. And they actually want that traffic to buy products and sign up to opt-in mailing lists.
    I thought it was hilarious, because CB, all of a sudden, doesn't want to have anything to do with P2P products, and now they stand the chance of being inundated with hops originating from P2P traffic.

    There was/is also a thread here by someone selling a report including video training on how to drive P2P traffic to offers.
    He flipped that website
    http://www.torrenttraffic.com/
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    recently to someone else : http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1450030

    Personally, I see no problem with sending P2P traffic to any offer.
    You are not encouraging illegal activities.
    On the contrary, you are encouraging P2P traffic to purchase.
    And they are real human beings, not clicks sent by scripts (robots) of crap traffic companies.
    So chances are that they have some money.
     
    g-Vector, Sep 2, 2009 IP
  2. FraudEconomy

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    #22
    Actually I WAS promoting P2P and it was one of the TOP earners.
    The problem is that ClickBank was benefiting $$$ from it.
    (a lot of o money went trough Platinum Partner and others)
    Now they don't want anyone to know about this.
    I simply demonstrated the case by analyzing my log files
    and sales statistics.

    MySpace started by promoting scam offers to their 20 MIL email list
    (lookup on Wikipedia) before they turned legit. So a lot of "scam products"
    funded a lot of ideas.

    Now! I did not test P2P traffic conversion rate against "RON" offers on ClickBank. Maybe I should look into this.

    The reason YOURCLICK.COM sites converts much worse is because their 7 Step CheckOut Process (it's channeled through Amsterdam bank).

    But any GURU promoting ways to monetize P2P traffic is full of it...
    The whole idea seems a bit wrong. People don't visit Torrent sites
    to PAY for products...

    Now on the other hand I have no doubt that there are people that do pay.
    I was surprised myself once I analyzed my logs.

    Well, you have to buy my book to get the whole picture...
    SHAMELESS PLUG!!!
     
    FraudEconomy, Sep 2, 2009 IP
  3. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I think that we are talking about 2 different things.

    1. promoting P2P-products
    2. promoting by P2P-traffic.

    CB rid itself of #1 (the P2P-products; products promoting downloads by P2P), and is attempting to rewrite history.

    Promoting (CB-)products by P2P-traffic is something which they haven't stopped yet.

    And I said that the P2P-products were scams, because they are in fact just describing something which could also be achieved by entering a search term at certain websites.

    P2P traffic is highly targetable.
    Much better targetable than RON (not much effort needed to beat RON).
    But still not as effective as targeted CPV/PPV-traffic.
    But one bad keyword in a CPV/PPV campaign (when not tracked and removed quickly) could burn up your dollars in no time without converting anything.
     
    g-Vector, Sep 2, 2009 IP
  4. FraudEconomy

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    #24
    Ah, It makes more sense now but I still don't believe that P2P traffic
    will convert well. I guess when you upload PROMO chapters into P2P networks
    you will get some conversions but I don't know if you can scale this.

    I guess you would have to have some sort of automated way to
    push out new updates and flood P2P networks with "FREE" offers.

    Care to show an example here?

     
    FraudEconomy, Sep 2, 2009 IP
  5. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #25
    There are enough repeatable examples in the ebook that was sold here on DP.
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1340299
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    I bought the report with videos when the original owner pimpinkid was still selling it in the thread above. We discussed several strategies by PM and email on how to drive targeted traffic to sites with tangible products for sale.

    I would be devaluating the purchase of the new owner by giving out examples here.
    (Or maybe I'm just lured into writing down things that would get me banned.)

    Basically you have 2 paths in the ebook. Broad optimisation (targeted) or narrow optimisation (more targeted upto highly targeted).
    You decide how far you want to take targeting your audience before uploading your commercial.
    Promo chapters could be an approach, and might be nice to build your opt-in email list.
    Like I wrote in my PM to you, I decided to not promote by P2P because
    The other reason being that I didn't see how I could upload anything of interest to promote for example women's shoes, HDTVs etc.

    I know better now.
     
    g-Vector, Sep 2, 2009 IP