ClickBank P2P Business?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by FraudEconomy, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hello All,
    This is my first post. Please try not to judge me too quickly.
    I have a question about ClickBank Policy on P2P products.

    You know that in April 2009 this year ClickBank removed all of their P2P products that have been shifted to YourClick.com.

    I was told by ClickBank that I can’t mention any P2P products or reference any P2P vendors in connection to ClickBank.

    You see, I have completed my new book that documents my own last 4 years with ClickBank (and $400,000+ in commission) and now I am forced to remove all the references to all vendors that used to sell P2P on Clickbank.

    Is this fair?

    Can I be sued by ClickBank if I reveal my history with Clickbank?

    Can anyone comment on this?
     
    FraudEconomy, Aug 27, 2009 IP
  2. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #2
    Talk to a lawyer (seriously).
     
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  3. FraudEconomy

    FraudEconomy Guest

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    I did talk to the lawyer. It seems like if the statement is true I should have no problem with the Law. And we all know that P2P products were all the rage on ClickBank.

    I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me either as my book just went live on Clickbank.
    But I feel that the picture will not be complete without some dirty history behind my success on Clickbank
     
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  4. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    If your lawyer okay'ed it, then you should trust him.

    99% of the people on this forum don't know anything about law and will give you totally useless advice.
     
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  5. FraudEconomy

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    I guess this question should also concern other ClickBank Affiliates.

    If they deny P2P relationship now, will they deny GetRichQuick Biz Opps
    after FCC & Google is done with Crack Down on Scams
     
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  6. jacky8

    jacky8 Active Member

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    Just a Tip: Don't mention the names of publishers you have earlier promoted. Modify your ebook to say that you are making $$$$$$ with P2P products now (Plimus, Yourclick, Click2sell, Yottacash).


    I tried to help :)
     
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  7. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    But that would be lying...and then you really could get yourself into legal problems...
     
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    jacky8 Active Member

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    #8
    Haha, do you really think that all those claims on CB Money Making Products are true? Do you think all those Forex Robots really make money?
    Do you think the stock trading robots really make people money?
    Do you think all those alternative remedies at clickbank really cure problems?
    Do you think those lottery programs really make the publisher a milionaire?
    Do you think those roulette softwares make the publisher millions?
    DO you think those sports betting guides make the owner $xx,xxx every month?
    Do you think all those "set up a business" guides are really written by people who have successfully set up such businesses?
    Do you think all those affiliate marketing gurus really made millions?
    Ohh, I'm tired now.. This list is really endless.
     
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  9. FraudEconomy

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    #9
    MLM principle that powers most of ClickBank products is very well known.

    BUT It doen't mean people don't make a lot of money on ClickBank.

    I have personally made more than $500,000 in the last 4 years from ClickBank Alone. That's the point. How do I know?

    fraudeconomy .com/app/report

    I explain how the money are generated and who is the MAN behind
    a lot of these products in my new book.

    "Fraud Economy - How to Cheat, Lie and Make Money in the 21st Century"





     
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #10
    You have to understand,

    They're the one approving your product. They decide whether your product will be approved.

    If they say they don't want P2P product information in the product, then you should do what they say. It's a private compnay, and they decide what will be accepted and what will be not accepted.

    If you want to get accepted by CB, you have to comply with their rules.

    If you go with another payment processor, then I guess you'd be able to use the P2P information.
     
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  11. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #11
    I know that stuff is bullshit. But that doesn't mean this guy should lie just because everyone else does. The way things are going, vendors and affiliates who make fraudulent statements will soon be brought to justice. Just look how things are changing in the acai/weight loss/resveratrol market...
     
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  12. FraudEconomy

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    100% Agree. Days of Anonymous Books & FlyBy BS books are over.
    That is why ClickBank is cleaning up the house. Not because they want to.
    They HAVE TO...

    It doesn't mean that those products dont make money. There are plenty
    of suckers out there.

    On the other hand there are a lot of QUALITY products out there
    that get BAD REP because they are offered on ClickBank.

    Read: FraudEconomy.com

     
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  13. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Because your "dilemma" is easily resolved by doing what CB asks, and making the P2P information available in your members only area, this thread comes across more like a promotion for your new book.
    It's easy to add the information as an unadvertised bonus : "The real information CB does not want me to show you." Or other guru lingo, but probably in your case this time really the thruth.
    CB has no control over what information you make available at your own website.

    I've seen your book at CB, and I've been at your website.
    Your book, which I am not knocking btw because it looks like a genuine attempt to provide and share valuable information, is still not complete.
    It looks like you were mainly driving traffic by PPC campaigns, something which is out of reach for most of the people you're targetting. Be it due to lack of knowledge how to track at the keyword level or more budget related.
     
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  14. FraudEconomy

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    Problem solved. I got an official email from ClickBank. They have verified the earnings and approved the site. After I removed the P2P information.
    Pretty sad :(

    It's true I don't mind the promotion but the point is this:
    You Can't erase history just by trying to shut me up.

    It is pretty complete now! New Update has been pushed out today!!!
     
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  15. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #15
    Good to hear.

    That's what I was also saying. Give them what they want, but make it available elsewhere.
    To take it even further, the closed member's area doesn't even have to be on the same server which is accesible to the world. CB has nothing to say or inspect there at all.

    Anyway, good to hear you survived it.
    I might pick you up on your book and website offer. Extremely detailed analysis.
     
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  16. FraudEconomy

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    Just wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions.

    Don't get me wrong I understand the reason behind P2P issues on ClickBank
    but I think in general it is the problem with ALL products on CB.

    They start as something and the minute they get approved they change
    everything, Redirect to PayPal, or RICK ROLL you just for fun.

    Clickbank does a poor job on following up with the product vendors
    and Affiliates suffer because of it.

    It takes time and effort to setup campaigns, landing pages etc and once you're done, you learn that they switch the product to 1ShoppingCart. F#%#$%$ ME..
     
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  17. g-Vector

    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    #17
    There is a fairly new product "Guru Bypass" explaining how to promote CB products through BT-P2P.
    Also how to build an email list through BT-P2P.
    In their sales pitch they do not mention this at all. :p
    It's by 2 WF-members.
     
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    You can try to ask ClickBank for compensation.It will take much time for litigation.
     
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    g-Vector Well-Known Member

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    Compensation for what ?
     
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  20. FraudEconomy

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    Yeah, I did not get that either.

    I actually did not mean to say that I promoted CB products using P2P.
    I have a special chapter about P2P Schemes and how they actually work.
    I explained the details. It is supposed to be up to the affiliate to decide
    if you want to benefit from P2P products.
     
    FraudEconomy, Sep 1, 2009 IP