LOL, I know a TJ from a NG I used to frequent and thought maybe it's the same one until I read his posts and realised it wasn't (he already knows a fair amount about this sort of stuff, so wouldn't ask this question.). I'd hate to be a John Smith if a John Smith ever got on the wrong side of Amer-Nejma There's going to be a load of people using TJ as a sign in name, to assume the above you must be very naive to say the least! BTW I've had two cyberstalkers in my time online, both tried to damage my reputation and my sites through comment spamming them (adding links to my sites in blogs with an aim to a Google ban)! Some nutty people online who can take offence at the strangest of things, my first cyber stalker hated me because I helped him get better SERPs from a phone sex site: it was free advice and I normally charge £250 a month to business owners to ask me SEO questions by email, helped him get number one in Google for the Phone Sex SERP as well (good money SERP as well). After helping him he then went after SERPs I'd had for years to try to prove on a NG he was better at SEO than I was, (he never did beat me)!! So I stopped helping him and that turned him against me!! Last I heard he thought I was some Russian comment spammer who apparently comment spammed on every site this guy did. I was apparently following him around various blogs and putting so many links via comments spamming that his spammed links were worthless and that made me a bad/evil person! The guy has a very strange idea of what's right and wrong. Very scary, glad I'm in a different country to him. TJ what do you mean you've done Clickbank? I'm not a big Clickbank affiliate: trying to get more into it as had a really good week: made $850 last week, $500+ so far this week, previously averaged around $100 a week. I've reviewed the products that are selling (and some that aren't) and keep going back to the pages to update things when something changes about the products, so I'm never done with a product. To add to what Kinitex said unless you plan to buy traffic from AdWords or something your going to have to generate traffic through SEO means, this means a lot of link building and reasonable SEO copyrighting. My best product (sales wise) is making a sale roughly every 24 hops (that's every 24th visitors who clicks one of my hop links makes a sale in case you didn't know what that meant). So to make 4 sales a day I currently need enough visitors to click from my site 100 times and that probably means I'm going to need 400-600 visitors a day (you need more visitors because not all click your links, for this product I get between 1/4 to 1/6 of my visitors that go direct to that particular product page AND click) specifically looking for that type of product to make just 4 sales (which makes between ~$14 and $20 a sale or between $56 and $80 a day, depends exactly what they buy). Over all products I link to the last 30 days had 4,637 hops with 125 sales making $2,026.28 after refunds (only one refund so far). That's $0.44 per hop, if on average 1/5 of my visitors click a hop link (no idea over all my sites if it's 1/5th) that means that $2,000 took ~23,000 visitors. 23,000 visitors isn't a lot to me, currently get over 15,000 a day to all my sites, but they aren't all directly to product type pages, so most of it won't convert to a sale of anything. I use SEO means to get my traffic (so all free organic search engine traffic), been years since I used Overture and AdWords, what would be the low end of the scale to buy 23,000 visitors through PPC means? Wondering if I could replicate the revenue through PPC means as well as organic search means. At 10 cents a visitor I'd loose $300 with the products I currently promote! If you can get traffic at 5 cents each then I'd make $800-$900. Bit of thinking out load there David Law
To SEO-Expert: THanks for all the information. No I didn't know what hops meant thanks for explaining. What I meant from the original post was that I was done as far as selecting a few products to start out with. I've only been trying to make money online for about a month know and I have a good Idea of what to do, I just don't have a lot of time. So I started the thread "Clickbank is DONE!" for two reasons 1. I finally marked clickbank off of my "to do list"; as in finally selecting products from clickbank Done! (hopefully that makes sense) In addition I've added them to my blog. Hence the term "Click bank is DONE" 2. The second reason is that I pretty much have a good Idea of what I have to do, however I'm just wanting to know what is the best way I should budget my time. I work two jobs and have a son so I don't really have a lot of time. Not to mention the fact that I have to use other people's computers since I don't have one. So I just didn't know where to focus on the most. For example writing more articles, adding content to my blog, submitting my site to directories (one by one) for backlinks, trying to learn Html, etc.. I guess I just want to try and find out what is more cost effective (as far as time is concerned). I know it all comes with time but that is unfortunately something that I am abundant of.
If I was starting from scratch almost: I'd use WordPress as my CMS (content management system) since out the box it's very good from an SEO stand point and if you know what your doing it's brilliant. Even an idiot doing everything wrong with SEO can create a half decent SEO'd site! I'd buy one of my SEO/AdSense themes from the link in my sig, if your poor go with the free version at http://www.morearnings.com/2006/08/13/wordpress-theme-blix-with-google-adsense/. This isn't as good as the paid version, but I did update it recently to remove a bunch of bugs that's creapt into this aging theme as WordPress has updated (will work with the latest version of WordPress, it's the only free one I've updated, rest are out of date). The above will give you an easy to use website creation tool (WordPress) with a SEO'd theme (created by a SEO consultant, that would be me, note the paid version is better SEO'd) with the option to show AdSense ads (in the paid version ads are easy to turn off, free version you'll need to edit the HTML to remove ads). As long as you keep SEO copywriting into account (you'll have to learn this) you won't have to worry too much about on page SEO. You also won't need to learn detailed HTML either (understanding the basics is a good idea though). I'd then create a site with at least 20 pages covering the Clickbank products I want to promote and supporting pages (articles etc...). That would get me to owning an easy to update site that is SEO'd removing a heck of a lot of hassle compared to writing one HTML page at a time! Next is promotion whilst still adding more content. Don't waste your time submitting your site to any search engines, they will find you, so submitting = waste of time. Do submit to various directories, but don't expect amazing results since one link from a directory is highly unlikely to pass much SEO benefit. For me directory submission is very low on my list (rarely get to it, too busy). I've found the best way by far to do well is offer stuff people want. For example the free themes on one of my sites were the first WordPress ready AdSense themes available for free and since I uploaded them a LOT of people have downloaded and used them. I was checking through my AdSense account and couldn't figure out where around 200 impressions came from most days. Turns out there are multiple sites online using my themes that have NOT replaced my AdSense publisher ID with theirs! 99% of people who use my themes read the instructions and use their publisher ID, but there's a few who don't giving me their AdSense revenue (maybe a few dollars a week)! This sort of free content generates links and at one point (when I regularly updated the free ones) the Blix theme page was PR6 (if you know little about PageRank getting to PR6 is hard). I find there is no better way to gaining links than good quality free content. Basically for every product type page I've made I have over 100 free content pages to generate links/interest in my sites and for the most part it works very well. I've not tried submitting articles to article directories for others to use on their sites since when I write an article I put it on my own site and aim to gain good SERPs for it. I understand the submitting good articles can generate a fair amount of click through traffic and a lot of new backlinks. If I didn't have a mental block on giving my content away to use on others sites that would be something I'd do I'm also not good at writing general articles either, everything I write tends to relate to what I do from my perspective, using a lot of personal examples of how something is working/not working for me, that sort of writing style wouldn't work for submitted articles. Good luck with whatever you do. David Law
To: SEO-Expert.Great information. It definately helps answer my question with time management. I'll have to consider using word press as well then. Usually I hear a lot about Squidoo or bloger.But it's definately good to hear advice from an expert. Thanks again.
No problem, I find writing about this sort of stuff helps me long term get my own strategies in order: if what you do makes sense to a lot of other people your probably on the right sort of track Inspired me to write a post: http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/make-money-by-dominating-squidoo-blogs.html It's about using Squidoo to gain SERPs without the need for a links campaign. Running a test on that page to a new Squidoo lens. Got a feeling it's going to be one of those hit/miss things, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. David Law
To SEO-Expert: Thanks for the summary, getting links can be a pain. I'll be sure to utilize Squidoo in this matter. I'll have to Link my blogger blog to them with an new lens. I just checked out your Free SEO Tutorial and 45yr Old Millionaire Blog last night (I acutally had similar goal of trying to retire by 30 or at least work for my self. Was doing good in real estate as a sales and investor, but you arleady know what's happining with that nowadays). Excellent material!!! Still haven't finished reading The tutorial. I'll be sure to click on some more of your adsense ads though
Glad you like my content, hope your joking about clicking my ads! Never a good idea to do anything like that can cost an entire account. If you've read a lot of my content you'll know over 10 years ago I had to start making money online when I dropped out of Uni on medical grounds, was that or claim government benefits indefinitely and I couldn't live that way for years! Sucks having to do something like this when it's not your main interest (I was working towards becoming a research Geneticist), but I'm pretty lucky in finding SEO as a business at a time it was just getting big and I found SEO both interesting and really easy to understand (I love doing research). I'd hate to be doing this if I didn't enjoy it and I really enjoy trying to make money with affiliate products. Just worked out this months affiliate revenue report http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/affiliate-revenue-report-september-2008.html and I made $4,790.33 in affiliate type revenue last month, lots thanks to Clickbank. You'd be surprised how much of an inspiration it's been just keeping track of revenue month by month (it's over doubled since I started tracking). Though probably wouldn't feel so good if it was going down! Still no where near becoming a millionaire by the time I'm 45, (just under 7 years to go for the site to make sense) but my affiliate revenue has increased month on month since tracking this way. David Law
To SEO-Expert: No I was just joking only clicked on about 3 or 4 ads tops. One was for school for IM and SEO stuff. I'm thinking about going to school for the whole IM, SEO making money online notion...
Kinitex is right, this will take a bit of time but id you've done what he says and you've chosen your keywords correctly Google will show you some of their "fine good lovin' "