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Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by Googles76, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. #1
    I am new to adwords and just wondering is it possible for your competitor to keep clicking on your ads in order to waste your daily budget? Or is there a protection that Google has against this?
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    Googles76, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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  2. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #2
    There is protection but Google won't tell what it is. I see multi-clicks from the same IP quite a bit and try to keep an eye on whether they charge or not but when running 2K ads it's hard to keep a close eye.

    Just enter sensible daily budgets and you should be OK.
     
    T0PS3O, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    toocoolforschool Peon

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    #3
    Hmm, I don't know anything about Adwords, but I would assume Google has some kind of fail safe program built into its Adsense ads that would detect foul play via multiple clicks from the same IP.
     
    toocoolforschool, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    Stumpygrrl Active Member

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    My suggestion is to bid an amount that keeps you in the 4-8th position. Why? Most click fraud would be done on the top positioned ads. Just my 2 cents...
     
    Stumpygrrl, Aug 25, 2005 IP
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    dshah Well-Known Member

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    #5

    hmmmmm, good insight:p
     
    dshah, Aug 25, 2005 IP
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    Willy Peon

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    #6
    Well, if your competitors hire someone like Click Monkeys to do the clicking, it could be hard even for Google to pinpoint it as fraud... :(
     
    Willy, Aug 25, 2005 IP
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    dshah Well-Known Member

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    clickmonkeys - sounds too good to be true. Anyone with experience with these people
     
    dshah, Aug 26, 2005 IP
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    cashmirrors Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Where's a nice heavy clue stick when you need it?

    Dshah, I have a second hand bridge I'd like to sell you.
     
    cashmirrors, Aug 26, 2005 IP
  9. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #9
    So, once you decide to stop working with them, they tell? sounds like selling your soul...
     
    fryman, Aug 26, 2005 IP
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    Willy Peon

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    Yeah, I noticed that, too :D Anyone hires them at their own risk, obviously... ;)
     
    Willy, Aug 26, 2005 IP
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    OMG! Does this really work?

    Found this on their site:

    "Click Monkeys!!â„¢ is a Ukrainian company and is not subject to United States law."
     
    Johnburk, Aug 28, 2005 IP
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    Good advice and I would add to be proactive with Google. If you see lots of clicks from the same IP and Google is charging them, write them a letter and they should credit you.
     
    revenow, Aug 29, 2005 IP
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    Willy Peon

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    Thanks a lot to whoever gave me a negative rep for this comment, first red point I've managed to earn... :confused: At least have the guts to sign, next time... :(
     
    Willy, Aug 29, 2005 IP
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    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Quit whining or you'll get even more red ;)
     
    fryman, Aug 29, 2005 IP
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    imbrod Well-Known Member

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    They are very strict on this one, I wouldn't worry much... If they find out there were invalid clicks, they don't pay to publisher and eliminate his account for good.
    But I wonder, do they keep your money or give it back to you?
     
    imbrod, Sep 3, 2005 IP
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    imbrod Well-Known Member

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    What is negative rep? How do you know you have one?
    (Sorry, I'm bit new to this forum...)
     
    imbrod, Sep 3, 2005 IP
  17. Googles76

    Googles76 Peon

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    I've heard stories of people getting refunds so I guess they give it back.
     
    Googles76, Sep 4, 2005 IP
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    Googles76 Peon

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    Members can rate your post either Positively, Negatively or Neutral. When your post is rated Negatively you get a "red rep" and you can check all the reps, positive, negative or neutral that you ever got at the top of the forum under the "User CP" menu, near the bottom it is titled "Latest Reputation Received"
     
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    #19
    True they do, a close friend of mine had his adsense ads pulled and they sent him a letter indicating that all money would be returned to advertisers who were victims of fraudulent clicks. However, this only applies to the fraudulent clicks and not to the valid clicks - for the valid clicks Google just takes and the publisher who had the ads resting on his site gets nothing, when he/she could have been making money. Lesson: don't mess with Click Fraud.

    Really Google could do more for prevention, I'd never heard of Click Monkeys but I had heard of people being hired in China and India to click ads. CPM campaigns are more expensive but you don't have the problem, and for some the best way to go is CPA -cost per action - (offered by Snap.com and others).
     
    jda, Sep 4, 2005 IP
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    why google didn't take a notice about clickmonkey ?
     
    programmer, Sep 4, 2005 IP