Church of England Synod member’s call to ban building of any new mosques. Is it ok ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ziya, Apr 1, 2008.

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Do you support this call ?

  1. Yes, I do support

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  2. No, I dont support

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  3. I am not sure

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  1. windtalker

    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #81
    Did you even read the links I provided? Komodo dragon don't need pairs as females can reproduce asexually, or did you not read 3.4

    Also I see you did not have a answer for the New Mexical Whiptail lizards which do not have any pairs at all, and reproduce asexually 100%. So your previous request has been provided:D
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #82
    Cnemidophorus neomexicanus
    New Mexico Whiptail
    Breeding:
    This species is made up of all females. Reproduction occurs through parthenogenesis. Two to four unfertilized eggs are laid in the summer. Hatchlings appear about two months later. Hatchlings with bright blue tail.

    http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/lizards/cnemidophorus.neomexicanus.html

    here is more info about asexual organisms and reproduction from wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction
     
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  3. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #83
    so what ?
    Is there there male and female for Komodo dragon ?
    A-Yes
    B-No
     
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  4. windtalker

    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #84
    Ziya, if you are not satified with komodo dragons who can reproduce asexually, why are you ignoring
    New Mexico Whiptail lizards which do not have pairs?:rolleyes: I point those out in the same post as komodo dragons.

    "New Mexico Whiptail" lizard
    http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/lizards/cnemidophorus.neomexicanus.html
    reproduces parthenogenesis (asexually)
     
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  5. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #85
    lol.. Guys i am not a biologist to answer all of your questions..

    And this thread changed to much biologist than about mosques in England.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #86
    Because it destroys the idea of a God sitting one day and making a pair of each animal. Science and education are the worst enemy of ANY religion. :D
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #87
    This is not complicated biology, it is common sense. But I can see how it starts to get confusing when it conflicts with what you were taught or believed.
     
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    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #88
    I'm just asking why did you ignore the first example I provided, not to answer all my questions.:rolleyes:
     
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  9. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #89
    Reproduction of a Jellyfish : http://www.animalcorner.co.uk/marine/jellyfish/jellyfish_reproduction.html

    Individual Jellyfish are either male or female. The eggs and sperm develop in very colourful special areas called 'Gonads' inside the body wall. When all of the eggs and sperm are fully developed, they are released into the stomach and then through the mouth into the sea. In most cases, to reproduce, a male releases his sperm into the surrounding water. The sperm then swims into the mouth of the female jellyfish, allowing the fertilization of the ova process to begin. Moon jellies, however, use a different process: their eggs become lodged in pits on the oral arms, which form a temporary brood chamber to accommodate fertilization

    Starfish Reproduction : http://www.vsf.cape.com/~jdale/science/reproduction.htm
    Starfish commonly reproduce by free-spawning: releasing their gametes into the water where they hopefully are fertilized by gametes from the opposite sex. To increase their chances of fertilization, starfish probably gather in groups when they are ready to spawn, use environmental signals to coordinate timing (day length to indicate the correct time of the year, dawn or dusk to indicate the correct time of day), and may use chemical signals to indicate their readiness to each other.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #90
    this question been answered many times and a year ago on islam online websie:

    answer
     
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  11. windtalker

    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #91
    From the same jellyfish link from ziya:
    http://www.animalcorner.co.uk/marine/jellyfish/jellyfish_reproduction.html
    "Budding is the development of a completely new Polyp that comes from the body wall of the original creature, much like a branch growing from the side of a tree. These become detached as separate small Polyps. This is a type of asexual reproduction"

    About starfish asexual reproduction
    http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761572716/starfish.html
    "Many starfish have the power to regenerate body parts, and in some starfish this becomes a regular means of asexual reproduction, new animals being produced from each fragment"

    "New Mexico Whiptail" lizards that are 100% asexual (I'm going to keep bringing this up, since you ignore it ziya)
    http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/lizards/cnemidophorus.neomexicanus.html
    "This species is made up of all females. Reproduction occurs through parthenogenesis." (asexually)
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #92
    I think people understood your question to be asking what animals reproduce without both male and females.
    If your question was what animals have only one gender, Then the answer will be some genus of cnemidophorus.

    So whatever point you were trying to make with this attempt at a loaded question has been debunked.
     
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  13. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #93
    so what ?

    is there male and female for jellyfish ?
    A- Yes
    B - No

    Is there male and female for starfish
    A-Yes
    B-No
     
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    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #94
    Why cut off my post? That is pathetic. Since you say so what, you don't care about real science, but instead about your bias belief. Fine, your choice, but what about New Mexico whiptail lizards ziya? There is not a pair within that species:

    New Mexico Whiptail" lizards that are 100% asexual (I'm going to keep bringing this up, since you ignore it ziya)
    http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/lizards/cnemidophorus.neomexicanus.html
    "This species is made up of all females. Reproduction occurs through parthenogenesis." (asexually)
     
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    #95
    Do you acknowledge that there are some species that have only one gender, Females, And that they lay fertilised, viable eggs with no interaction from males?
    You asked (in poor English, which is hard to understand) what animals only have one gender, The answer you received was some species of cnemidophorus (once people deciphered what exactly it was you were saying).
     
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  16. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #96
    I replyed that I dont have deep knowledge in biologic, but to be kind i posted about jellyfish and starfish too. They have male and females.
    stOx you didnt need to comment on my english. It was not about my english, and myself.... I really dont need your comments on my english

    Ok I hope our biological lesson is over for today guys
     
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    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #97
    But Jellyfish and starfish also reproduce asexually... and New Mexico Whiptails do not have a pair at all:
    "New Mexico Whiptail" lizards are 100% asexual http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/lizards/cnemidophorus.neomexicanus.html
    "This species is made up of all females. Reproduction occurs through parthenogenesis." (asexually)
     
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    #98
    So you are choosing to completely ignore the example which answered your question? Intellectual cowardice at it's most obvious.

    You were obviously trying to make some kind of facile point hoping that people wouldn't be able to give you an example of a species which consists of only one gender, And when an example was given you play dumb regarding your knowledge of biology as an excuse to ignore the example you were given. so typical of religious people, Ignorant and dishonest.

    You were given links which explained the genus of cnemidophorus which consist of only one gender, So do us and yourself a favour, Go read it and educate yourself.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Whiptail Lizards
    source : http://members.aol.com/Attic21/CreatureofDay/whip.html

    One of the surprising things about unisexual whiptail reproduction is that a courtship ritual is still required even though there is only one sex. Unisexual whiptails pair up. In the courtship ritual one female takes the part of a male, while the other takes the role of a female. Later the 2 lizards switch roles. The switch is caused by hormones: estrogen promotes female behavior; progesterone stimulates male behavior. The mating ritual is required for survival of the species: without it few eggs are released (ovulation)
     
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    #100
    yeah, and?
    It might help if you actually attempted to make a point.
     
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