Christmas Tree Bomb Plot 2010 Mohamed Osman Mohamud Portland Oregon

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  1. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #101
    A lot of those who live a hard life now miss the safety that the communist regime provided . Still I'd rather eat bread and water and be free then feast on stakes and have no freedom . As for dangers they always existed , but in most the countries that are now part of the EU the situation has greatly improved .
     
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    #102
    Those were not communist regimes but state capitalism which is the harshest form of capitalism. State Capitalism should be the last development stage of Capitalism but in East Europe it was implemented before Capitalism was really developed there. East Europe was the result of misinterpretation of Marx ideas by Lenin and his strong desire for power. USA and EU are just entering the State Capitalism since they already have a developed Capitalism system.
     
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    #103
    yeah changes need time to effect and goes for promising future. I agree with you about freedom worth and know what you say.
     
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    #104
    I don't give a dam about the theories behind it or the philosophy . It was hell and the best thing about it is that it's gone . Gone forever .
     
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    #105
    oh Gworld! why you are aggressive!?
    if you were right then Tokyo and NY are cheaper than Iran cities!
    don't know from where you got this prices.

    anyway I guess one day, we will be friends.
    in Iran hotel prices is more expensive for foreign in compare of natives, I guess two or three times. 300 dollar per night should be for one of best Iranian hotel in Tehran. a 2 or 3 star hotel cost me 30 to 50 dollar for two, beside in law season bargain acceptable.

    in Iran a meal in restaurant regularly cost 3 to 12 dollar per person. in high class hotels and also some special meals probably higher.
    fast foods with drink 1 to 4 dollar per person.

    and alcohols
    a bottle of Scottish whiskey is 30 to 50 dollar and a can of beer 4 to 7 dollar. what else?
     
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    #106
    You really should read The Open Society and It's Enemies Volume II before you continue to spout more historicism nonsense. Volume I wouldn't hurt you either.
     
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    #107
    You are joking, 3 dollar is about 3000 tomman and most appetizers cost more than that let alone main course. May be you are right and we just go to different type of restaurants.
     
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    #108
    Oh boy! A large Budweiser costs a dollar over here!
     
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    #109
    I surprised! tomman isn't our currency unit but anyway Iranian people more familiar with tomman than rial. how you know that?
    I mentioned price of restaurant meal in average on big cities. in towns and even some big cities like Mashhad you can have main course in restaurants less than 3 dollars.

    in here alcohol is banned and you have to pay heavier price for it because smugglers import it from Iraqi Kurdistan to Iranian Kurdistan then distribute them.
    in return drugs has low price.

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    #110
    Ahh c'mon did they had to crush the bottles of Grants ? That's like my favorite brand :(
     
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    #111
    I know the unit is rial but in a country that even 1 tomman is practically worthless, it is ridiculous to talk about rials. I think a lot of Iranians refer to 1000,000 (roughly about 800 USD) as tomman now. I was there just last year.
     
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    #112
    Muleing cash to Afghanistan to help prop up the Taliban probably.
     
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    #113
    Unlike stupid people who don´t know what they are talking about, big American companies are heavily involved in Iran and by big, I mean top 100.

    America.gov

    As usual the right wing loud mouthes around here, do not have any idea what is happening in USA or the rest of the world.
     
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    #114
    What, you mean like GE? Yes, I'm aware big US companies violate US and UN sanctions, or exploit loopholes by classifying their work as "humanitarian". Not sure what your quoted clipping about scientific outreach has anything to do with your statement. In fact, why did you even bring it up? You embarrassed to be doing business in Iran in the face of UN sanctions?

    GE, one of the biggest US companies doing business there has this statement on their website, after having their business dealings with Iran exposed:
    I love the disclaimer at the end and the emphasis on concern for "business and reputation risks". I have no doubt they are there right now as on a "Humanitarian Aid" mission to help Iran unwind the Stuxnet virus that has set their nuclear program back by two years. Anyway, I understand your need to be defensive. I would be too. Just because they or you help fund state sponsors of terror doesn't mean most people don't find you to be pond scum.

    Now back to my earlier comment, exactly how many hundred dollar bills can you keester?
     
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    #115
    then you should work in our police department! lol
    I guess authorities who crash such bottles act against their willing! lol

    right now a dollar is equal to 1078 tommans and when you were in Iran a USD was almost 1000 tomman I guess.

    which Iranian cities you had seen? in my thought you found Iranian not sweet people! guys like me!lol
     
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    #116
    you post was more related to academic and science relation with Iran no companies!

    surely Iranian student love to connect to USA universities and study there beside move and live in America.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_in_Iran#Iran.27s_Brain_Drain_problem

    Iranian students for higher degree of education love to study abroad specially USA. so it is an opportunity for American colleges which collect best students for their university.

    maybe but I more saw he interested in Iranian Mullahs!
     
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    #117
    I quoted about scientific co-operation on top of business relation that I previously posted about, just to embarrass you about your lack of knowledge about things that you post.
    Are you saying that you agree with UN? Isn't the UN the biggest evil that is taking over your country according to your loud mouth friends? Should I quote your stupid friends in this forum to embarrass you more?
    How about your ideological BS? Are you saying free trade and capitalism should be hindered by moral and political consideration? Are you saying that governments should interfere in free trades and flow of Capital? Isn't this exactly what your right wing friends always cry about? :rolleyes:

    I have seen Tehran, Hamedan, Isfahan, Mashed and the area around Caspian sea. I had no problem with people only with police that was checking the cars to see if people are drunk or not which was not fun since people were inviting us for drinks every where that we went. It is strange that every time they open a bottle, they insist that you should finish it.
     
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    #118
    Things I post? Don't recall making a statement about US companies trading with Iran. I simply chided that you were keestering money across the Iranian border to fund the Taliban. This whole rant of yours looks to be born of embarrassment.

    Julian, I'll even agree with you when you aren't saying something stupid. It almost never happens, but I'm willing to allow for that.

    Changing topics like a cockroach runs from the light. Even trying to play the Capitalism and Free trade card when it suits you. For the record, no, I am not a proponent of funding state sponsors of terror or trading in Nazi tooth gold, but thanks for clarifying your position on those matters for us all.
     
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    #119
    I guess our regimen think UN is evil.
    didn't see you support anything or anybody!

    Seems you came to Iran for vacation! It was pity you didn't go to Shiraz and Persepolis.
    You hadn't problem with Iranian people! Maybe because Iranian mostly can't speak English or you didn't start any discussion! I guess you supposed to see anti-America people!
    Yeah in Caspian see area vacation season, police more search for drunk driver but in other parts of the country rarely see police stop cars for this reason.

    Anyway seem you had been in Iran because other people in the world can't image such things about an Islamic country.
     
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    #120
    You are so naive and try to cover abomination a*s all the time. Ask your friend if he is such big supporter of UN resolution and sanction, what should the world do about all the resolutions passed against Israel by UN? Then you will hear his rant about how UN is an evil organization and no one should pay any attention to it. :rolleyes:
    They check and make problems in other cities too but the good thing that you can always pay them some money and problem is solved. I was to a party in Iran and almost half of the girls were practically naked (even European girls don´t wear such small dresses, police came and the host just paid them off.
     
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