Christianity's unanswerable question

They fear the dictionary as it looks so much like the bible and god forbids look-a-like. (god get's jealous)

 

I don't see it (the god) as real or the creator of humankind. May be that is why I am unwilling to let it get away with contradictions when it is obviously doing so and being wrong, while "believers" duck their heads under the sand.

I don't have kids, but if I did I would punish them for their wrongs and treat them equally. I would not set opposite standards for them or treat them differently for the same wrong.

It is a good thing you are not a English teacher. You can not ignore facts or definitions, just to act like or feel you are right. Saying "A red sheep is blue" is just one example of what is a contradiction, NOT the only one. A act, words, situations compared, facts, etc can also be contradictions. Read again:

How is he going to punish children of a nation for their father's sin does not contradict what his "moral rules" are for another? It is the same "god" who should have one standard of what is considered right or wrong. If he do not and don't follow it himself then he is a inconsistent god, period.

If a lawmaker tell someone it is illegal to send a child to jail for his father's crime of stealing bikes, but when you steal a bike the same lawmaker sends your child to jail, that is a inconsistent/ contradicting lawmaker.

Just because you claim its a god, doesn't change the fact that its actions and words are contradicting.

Then the god is inconsistent. How is he going to say it is wrong to do something and yet do it himself without his actions contradicting his own rule?
Not only his action contradicts his own laws, but it is also hypocritical.



Nehemiah:

What are you talking about? You are lost. My post shown the contradiction and how futile your post was in trying to separate "moral perversion" from sin" If you are going to standby that nonsense then it is a waste of time debating with you.

Also I don't need to be a scholar to know about the bible. I was raised in a christian family and in a majority christian community for all of my childhood life.

I have the impression the thread was created just to simply mock and show how Christian's own tactics can be easily used against it on this forum...But keep on believing whatever you want.

 

So are you bragging about where you were "raised", or are you attempting to justify your ignorance when it comes to your severe lack of knowledge and understand regarding THE WORD of GOD ("The Bible")?

Being "raised in a christian family and in a majority christian community for all of your childhood life", doesn't make you knowledgeable about Scripture(s), any more than barking makes you a dog.

You've just shown that you're nothing more than like the piece of money that the woman misplaced in one of JESUS' Parables. . .you were lost in the house (your house, the Church house, and anybody's house you occupied in your "christian community").

 

Because He is God, and He reserves judgment unto himself. It is not hypocritical, God says he will judge the just AND the unjust and punish those who do not act according to his will.

You actually have to READ to get it. You don't seem to be willing to do that, and you won't give thought to something that you refuse to believe in. This is not how you have an honest discussion. You are doing the exact same thing that you accuse 'christians' of doing...sticking your head in the sand in order to hold on to your 'faith' while telling others that they are wrong.

If you ever want to have an honest discussion about the Bible and it's 'contradictions', please feel free to message me. If not, at least consider that maybe atheists do not have all of the answers.

 

No, you only think it is a god, even though you have no proof just "faith" and/or feelings which is the equivalent of a child believing in Santa Claus because of a storybook.
Also if a so-called "god" can not or will not follow its own "righteous or moral" rules it set forth in a story, then its not a good god or a god at all.

I have read it (and several times before) and this is a honest discussion. I am not going to read it as an christian would, which includes a automatic belief that "god" is perfect, just because it (or more so a book) say so. You would not do so for any other books written by men, and the bible is just another man written book that never proven to deserve any automatic "special status". Giving that to the bible is not honest, that is not a debate, and is ridiculous considering the evidence in your own bible that is right before your own eyes that shows this "god" and its scripture is not perfect, is contradictory and hypocritical.
Also I never said atheists have of all the answers, and far as I know no credible atheist ever claimed atheists have all of the answers. Atheists are human just like everybody else, and humankind have a lot of things to learn. Now I would also like to make the same request of you to at least consider that may be your god do not have all the answers.

Nehemiah you are crazy, you have lost your mind. It's not bragging when you asked was I an "undercover believer" and I corrected you. I see all of your past posts are fanatical, it's a waste of time talking to you.

 

Are you "crazy"?
Have "you lost your mind"?
Why am I "fanatical", but you're not?

You debate your beliefs, just as I do,
but do you label yourself as being "crazy", or having "lost your mind", and/or being "fanatical"?

If you're going to act all offended when you're labeled, and/or called a name, then you should never do unto someone that you don't want do to you.

 

I read through just a couple of the verses that they said contradicted eachother. The two I looked at:

One of them was taken entirely out of context.
The second I looked at clearly did not read the bible properly. There was no understanding of the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Convenant.

If you are going to discuss the bible, please read it for yourself, then make comments on it. I feel as though many athiests use websites such as these to gather their beliefs that the bible somehow regularly contradicts itself. Which anyone who has read it thoroughly knows this isn't true.

 

This is the biggest contradiction of all...the failure to resolve the differences between the old and new texts; i.e., those written by Sumerians, Babylonians and Greeks.

There is no scriptural or logical justification for adopting and then disregarding the tenets of the Hebrew text as most modern Christians do.

This is why we laugh at you.

 

amanamission, except for the prophecy and the numerous scriptures that tell us about Jesus Christ coming and forming a new convenant with Israel? Out of curiousity, how do you overlook them? This isn't a contradiction, it is an explanation. With those types of comments, you aren't proving anything except the fact that you have little understanding of the bible.

Jeremiah 31 - A prophetic chapter about how the convenant was going to change.
1 Peter 1:19-20, II Timothy 1:9, and other scriptures in the New Testament refer to the different way that salvation is obtained after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
There are plenty more that show the differences, or references to them. I would encourage you to read them.

Jesus Christ himself told us that he didn't abolish the law (which is why it is still in the bible) but he came to fullfill it. We no longer need to sacrifice animals, Jesus Christ was the ultimate sacrifice, the lamb that we needed with no blemish. He tore down the veil/wall that was between man and God. We use the Old Testament to reference God's stances on issues and to learn from the Isrealites of that time period. There were many changes made at the point of death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that changed everything when it comes to our salvation and the relationship we are now allowed to have with God.

 

Exactly. Saying "well they are different books, of course they are going to say different things" is a bit of a blow to the claim that either is divinely inspired.

Like i said earlier, These people don't look to question their faith, They don't even look for reasons to believe; They are reduced to manufacturing rationalisations which justify a continued belief in the patently untrue.

They start from the conclusion that the bible is true, then work backwards inventing rationalisations as and when they need them to protect their conclusion.

 

Egads, another stupid thread...

Here's a list of all 143 popular contradictions with the answers you are looking for. http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm

Enjoy...

 

Just because you don't like that it questions your belief do not mean it is stupid.
That link doesn't give answers only gives excuses and what the author thinks/believes from a christian point of view, the "automatic view god is perfect and can not be questioned" which is faulty and filled bias for their belief. Just look at how many time he states "obvious/obviously" as if all people think or believe as christians.
From what I seen the scriptures given in jumpboy's links still contradict ones given by the author's from that page, He just tries to give other scriptures to push his point of view.

 

Seems I've acquired another tag along on DP.... Wonder how long this one will last.

 

For me, the bible is far too vague and open to interpretation to make any sense, and also, who were the people that wrote it anyway? by this I mean that nobody really knows what they were like or vouch for their personality.

 

Huh??? Some of these posts are beyond laughable. Are these bots?

 

That is what I think when I read christian posts about believing in a 2,000 year old book written by men in the bronze age.

 

Without faith, knowledge is worthless when it comes to belief.

 

that made no sense, whatsoever.

 

He's speaking Biblish. It's a pidgin spoken by church goers. It features empty platitudes, unsupported premises, and flat-out nonsense, as in this case.

Translated to English, it means, "my highest value is blind faith. The more knowledge I gain, the less I would be able to believe as I do. So knowledge is bad."

 

Thank you for the translation- and considering your aptitude, and the number of religious in america, you could make some serious money.

It still doesn't make too much sense, though.