christian chastity ring disallowed by school - is this fair?

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  1. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #21
    I'm not allowing anyone to do anything. Safe sex does not teach children that it's okay to have sex. Safe sex methods teach teenagers to protect themselves. It also teaches them that abstinence is the only fool-proof way to protect against pregnancy and STD's.

    It does NOT fill their heads with false information about STD's and other things like abstinence-only programs have been found to do. That's more damaging to a child than learning about the proper way to use a condom and how women get pregnant.
     
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    #22

    Do you have Kids?
     
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    #23
    No, they told her to take it off due to a dress code


    Leon Nettley, head teacher of Millais School in Horsham, denies discrimination, saying the ring contravenes the school's rules on wearing jewellery.

    "The school is not convinced pupils' rights have been interfered with by the application of the uniform policy," he told the Brighton-based Argus newspaper. "The school has a clearly published uniform policy and sets high standards."

    That's a quote from Reuters

    http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSL2270307520070622?pageNumber=2
     
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  4. DeniseJ

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    #24
    Hell no. I'm 20 years old. I'm not stupid enough to have kids right now.

    But if I did, I wouldn't mind them learning about sex education in school. I'd tell them what they wanted to know at home of course, as well.

    I was in sex education programs growing up. They didn't make me want to have sex. I didn't have sex until I was 18. Why? Because sex education (and my parents) taught me that it's okay to WAIT. I knew the consequences of having sex and I was taught about the proper ways to protect myself - INCLUDING that abstinence is the only fool proof way to prevent pregnancy and STD's.
     
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  5. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    if its due to uniform i understand, however the original post said otherwise as i have quted below

     
    simplyg123, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  6. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #26

    Would you rather your child have sex safely, or not have it untill an appropriate time. Just because its easier to teach them to do it safely, doesnt make it the right option
     
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  7. DeniseJ

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    #27
    I would want my child to have sex safely if that's what she/he decided to do. I would always be open and honest with my child about sex and the consequences of sex, but I would also let them know about ways to protect themselves if they decide they are ready for it.

    Who is to say what an "appropriate time" for someone to have sex is? It's different with everyone. But you can't put an arbitrary number and say "Okay, you're allowed to have sex once you reach this age, but before then it's BAD!"

    Open and honest communication with my parents (and truthful information about sex) allowed me to make a mature decision about when to have sex. I have no regrets about having sex when I did.
     
    DeniseJ, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Well there is an age, sex is for adults and your not a legal adult until 18
     
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  9. sukithesnake

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    #29
    i am a mother of teenage kids and i teach secondary pupils. sex education in the school i teach in is all about safe sex, not abstinence, it even goes so far as to teach kids different ways to enjoy sex e.g. oral, anal, etc., and i would think it is the same elsewhere. and there is a huge amount of pressure on kids today to have sex as early as possible otherwise they just won't be accepted by their peer group. just look at how the soaps and other programmes on tv encourage kids to have underage sex. even magazines aimed at underage kids have articles on sex.
    personally i have brought my kids up to have self-respect and fight for what they believe is right, not what the crowd say is the norm. they now also share my view on this and though they are old enough now to have sexual relations they certainly do not see it as something to be taken as lightly as a handshake.
     
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  10. DeniseJ

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    #30
    I don't know what sort of school you are teaching in but that is NOT the norm for sex education programs.
     
    DeniseJ, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    #31
    Its been a while since i was in a sex ed class, but if thats true, times have surely changed
     
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    #32
    they don't call it sex ed. anymore, so yes times have changed, it is called 'personal development', 'personal programme' or 'personal ed.' and honestly it is like that in state secondary schools, they ask each pupil to put a condom on a banana!
    it is supposedly making such lessons more fun and easily understandable for the pupils, even using the kind of language they use.
    and guess what our school got a glowing report from offsted for using such tactics.
     
    sukithesnake, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    #33
    great so now sex ed is teaching kids sex is fun
     
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  14. DeniseJ

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    #34
    I've only been out of high school for three years. Times could not have changed that much since I've been out of school.

    The banana thing I've heard about (though never experienced.) It's to teach kids the proper way to put on a condom.
     
    DeniseJ, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    #35
    the first step to hands on sex in schiool
     
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  16. DeniseJ

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    #36
    I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. But we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this :)
     
    DeniseJ, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    #37
    I think when you do have your own kids you will change your mind, but for now, i guess your right
     
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    #38
    As far as i know most jewelry is banned from most schools around my area which is the schools policy - Fine! But if a school allows jewelry then i don't see this as a problem with the ring as other religions are allow their fixes in school, hi-jabs etc
     
    Toopac, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  19. DeniseJ

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    #39
    IF I have my own children. And no, I will not change my mind. I was brought up in an open and honest household. I will instill those same values on my child if I decide to have one.
     
    DeniseJ, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    #40

    you want to arm wrestle over it, maybe a good ole game of thumbwar?
     
    simplyg123, Jun 22, 2007 IP