Christian accepts Islam after challenging Zakir Naik - MUST SEE !!!

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  1. #1
    hi all :)

    Christian accepts Islam after posing a question to Dr. Zakir Naik. Young,

    brave and confident Christian from the audience in Toronto challenges

    Dr. Zakir Naik on the divinity of Jesus (pbuh). By the end of Dr. Zakir Naik's

    answer, brother Patrick becomes convinced, accepts Jesus and Muhammad

    (peace be upon them both) as messengers of Allah (God in English) and

    embraces Islam. May Allah bless him and keep him steadfast, ameen.


    Amazing Shahadah with Zakir Naik during Q&A at Journey of Faith




    The time has now come for you to use your reason and ask yourself:

    How could Christ ("God"!) be in the womb of a created woman?

    Is the mother of this "God" (!) -- the Virgin Mary -- a creator or a created being?
    Who was crucified on the cross in the light of this belief that the divine

    was not separated from the human; was the divine crucified with him or

    did it leave him at the time of the crucifixion? Was the Lord God unable to

    find a way to forgive the sins of mankind except this repugnant way in which His only son was killed?




    Does God want to show mercy to mankind and for that reason He punished His son?!




    The time has come to think about the idolatrous ideas that Paul introduced

    to this religion, as he introduced the idea that Christ was created from the

    divine, after the Christians had been unanimously agreed that he was

    a created being, a slave or servant of God. Who is Christ according to

    the Christians? Is he the Lord or the son of the Lord or the third of three?

    The time has come to think about the belief in Trinity which is contrary to

    sound human nature and common sense.




    The time has come to think about the contradictions in the attitude

    towards the cross; instead of burning every cross and treating it in

    a disrespectful manner because it was on something like this that the Lord

    or the son of the Lord was crucified -- God forbid -- as the Christians

    claim, we see them venerating it and regarding it as holy and worshipping

    it. The time has come to think about the embarrassing differences

    between the Gospels, from which there is no way out except to admit that

    they have been tampered with and the wording and meaning has been

    distorted.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S_A9ERJWN0
     
    declan, Nov 5, 2010 IP
  2. energys

    energys Peon

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    I think Muslims in general are fixated to their religion nothing more than that.I dont think religion so important in one's life its just a personal issue with any religion follower. Nothing else.
     
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  3. ApocalypseXL

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    #3
    I answered more difficult questions in kindergarten and I believe I also had better writing skills at that time .
     
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    energys Peon

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    ......May be you were better in your (kindergarten) days but not now for sure :).
     
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    luke12 Member

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    #5
    Zakir should stick to his books. He clearly knows nothing about the bible and those with weak faith structure are easily manipulated by him.
     
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    energys Peon

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    Luke,

    Zakir is no doubt a good orator and has acquired in depth knowledge on other faith books but he only picks up those phrases which are convenient, manipulative and to some extent questionable to reinforce his point which is obviously in favor of Islam. He should first see rationality in his own book and its purpose before raising finger at other faiths. For a person like him, had he chosen peace, unity and brotherhood as a theme instead of converting people to islam he did do a far better service to humanity which is in dire need these days.
     
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    .... The same Zakir Naik who said;

    "Every Muslim should be a terrorist."
    "Western women are easy targets for rape."
    and;
    "If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs."

    .... Fuck anyone who'd support this type of shit.
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #8
    as I read article above, Zakir just attacked Christianity by exaggerating some contradiction in it, that's all. The question is for what reason that Christian converted to Islam? In that article no any sign of that!
    agree with luke, that Christian had weak faith, if had strong faith, then need not any reason!
     
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    #9
    All religions and interpretations thereof have passages or histories that others can find absurd ... that's why no matter what your religious or spiritual beliefs, they all require faith.

    I have studied theology for decades and could easily find absurdities and contradictions in all religions ... to what benefit? To further divide?

    The three major religions in the world all claim a common ancestor (all tracing to Abraham) and all believe in the same supreme deity (just by different names) ... who am I to judge by which path to get there so long as it does not infringe upon mine?
     
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    The question is, will his weak faith make him a crappy Muslim, or a good one? Personally, I think sharia's penalties for conversion from Islam should do wonders for his faith.

    This is exactly why I need 13 children. Look at what Abraham did with 12.
     
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    I find it hard to believe that he acquired deep knowledge in the bible. I saw the video you posted above from his Toronto conference and I can prove to you if you wish that almost everything he was discussing about the bible shows that he truly doesn't understand it.
     
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    #12
    Buzz off troll . I wasn't talking about you .

    Anyway I agree whit babak on the subject . He pretty much summed it up anyway .

    @Obamanation : What sharia penalties are you talking about ?
     
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    #13
    what you mean by good one?! lol if you mean peaceful one. I hope so but no any guaranty.
    I saw many new Muslim could justify this. I guess their faith is stronger or try to be.

    ApocalypseXL
    Sharia's law for people who converted to Islam is a bit lenient in compare of me who born as a Muslim. if that guy deny Islam then encounter with Capital punishment but if he/she return to Islam again will be forgive and free.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #14
    Given Naik's history, I doubt there is any veracity at all to this story.
     
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    #15
    Lots of converts from Islam back to other religions. But in any Islamic state, if they find out you've converted from Islam then you risk arrest and being killed.

    Christians don't get aggressive about it, but if Christians started murdering Christian converts to Islam then all hell would breaks lose.
     
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    #16
    Muslims by nature are more protective of their religion then their own immediate family so leave alone other people.
     
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    #17
    WTH are you talking about ?
     
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    My brother, "others" means non-Muslims.
     
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    Ok , my English must have somehow rusted up since I still don't understand what you're trying to say by "leave alone non-muslims" . Also I'm not your brother .
     
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    #20
    Usually the ragheads just say "kafir".
     
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