No need to shout. I see you are in Mumbai rbi PTC. I assume your site has mainly non tier 1 traffic, and probably mainly originating from India. What you need to understand is, that makes a massive difference, and no two sites or programs are ever the same. At Adtoll, we have lots of Tier 1, USA, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand targeted run of network bookings. What that means is, firstly your users will only ever actually see the Tier 1 RONs, and when clicked you wouldn't earn from them, because valid clicks have to come from Tier 1 countries. See the geo-target matrix here: http://www.adtoll.com/ron_geo_tergeting.php We do have some non-tier 1 RONs including India targeted campaigns, but the Tier 1 campaigns are much more popular. We also have some new geo-targets including an All Countries geo-target. This is an aspect publishers need to understand, just because a program has not worked well for you, does not mean it is bad, it just means it didn't work for you, and that goes for any program. Having said that, if you have Tier 1 traffic, drop me a line, and I'll let you know the best formats to run, or even non Tier 1 for that matter. I hope I have explained this a bit for you, I'm sure it will help with your understanding.
I just don't understand if you guy not gonna pay them for the Clicks why you guy show those Tier 1 Ads to none target visitor. Just don't show if a visitor from any country that Tier 1 not support! It sounds a little unfair for the publishers. Sorry, I don't mean to offend or anything but I just curious and want to know why!
Thats a fair question, and actually a good one. We show Tier 1 through the network for two reasons, first of all to deliver value to the advertiser. The idea with a Tier 1 run of network is that they receive all traffic, but only pay for Tier 1 clicks, this maintains the quality of traffic they receive. The second reason is because we will be using all clicks generated on ad groups, including the Tier 1 clicks for the rate card stats. Because sponsored ads deliver all clicks, the rate card should reflect data for all clicks on the ad group. This will ensure the country of origin data and other data is accurate for a sponsored ad booking. If Tier 1 RONs did not show, then the ad group would show default ads, and not produce a fair indication of the traffic for the site in the rate card. I hope that makes things clearer.
I understand adtoll wants to give advertisers some good exposure but then when there are clicks from non tier1 countries the publisher gets nothing for it. And specially if the site doesn't get lot of traffic then it will take ages to reach payout. Why not give the publishers some thing for it too. At the end of the day everyone is happy. Please look at this point.
Publishers only get paid for what Advertisers pay for, thats how every program works. Publishers are getting something from it, it allows their rate cards to display realistic data, which makes there rate card more attractive to advertisers. Of course we are only talking about Tier 1 RON's, all other RONs will display to the relevant user. With our new geo-tageting options, we are hoping to get more bookings so more publishers can benefit as well.
So base on the explanation above. Adtoll is great for Advertiser but worse for publisher- I don't think a lot of publishers are willing to join when they heard this... I think you guy should change something to make it fair... If you have only Advertiser and no Publisher you guy will be broke like all of us... Not offending but for myself I wouldn't want to try when I heard this. I am sorry if I say something too honest from my heart and make you guy not happy!
No, both the Advertiser and the Publisher benefit from displaying Tier 1 RONs through the network (read my explanation again). We are not the only program to do this, we are simply open about it. We are open to suggestions for change, so if you have any ideas please let us know about them. We take suggestion on board and we have implemented a lot of customer feedback suggestions. We even have a questionnaire right now for feedback.
I hope with the new geo targeting publishers can expect something good. Oh another thing, is adtoll down? I can't access the site for the past 2 days. The ads are showing fine though. Its only that i can't access adtoll site.
Adtoll??? In their TOS they have said $20 for new sign-ups in bold letters, and below that they have said "this promotion is not currently available".....if that is not there what is the purpose of placing it there
It is bold because it is a heading. That item is there because we have run the promotion, and the terms still stand for users who were eligible. It was the first, and will not be the last time the offer will be run.
I think I can help explain about Trier 1 on AdToll. When an advertiser buys an RON ad they can chose to target Trier 1, US, UK, etc. They can also chose to target India, Spain, or all possible countries. If the visitor from that clicks the ad isn't within their paid targeting the click is still counted but you won't get paid for it. Why that is still good is because those unpaid clicks will be added to your sites sales page and advertisers will see all your clicks. That will help you sell direct ads. You can still earn from non-trier 1 ads but only if that ad was targeted to the non-trier 1 country the user that clicked was from. AdToll is really not a CPC program. It's main purpose is to help sites sell direct ads on their sites for the price they want. The added benefit is that if you don't sell any you still get to rotate ads of which most will pay you. Please correct me if I am wrong Paullie.
bscdesign, you have it right mate, except that only Tier 1 RON are displayed through the network, other geo-targeted ads are only served to users in the relevant country.