dfsweb, If you haven't figured this out yet THIS FORUM is already infected as is webmasterworld.com, netscape.com, alexa.com on and on. That means every URL you have in your sig in this forum will be indexed the same exact way. So these clever Chinese guys you admire so much now will have dupe content up using your words and images for their gain (they get Pagerank using your bandwidth) Let me know how you feel when they are using YOUR bandwidth and you see absolutely no gain (unless you make money from people looking at your pictures on their domain). Is there a benefit to them getting the PageRank instead of you? I don't get it.
Oh, don't mind Tops and me ...... we've got history from another thread! Tops: I don't think we should reply to or comment on each others posts, as we don't really want to lose focus on the real issue, do we? 'Cos I for one don't want this thread to end up like the last one. So, please don't start with me again! Anyway, getting back to the topic ...... I didn't realise your CJ ads were not working. That does change things a little bit. Do you know how this affects sites running Google ads??
I'll 'battle' with you in every thread where necessary as long as it stays on-topic and is useful to get rid of misinformation. Good question. I wouldn't be surprised if they change the AdSense Pub-id on the fly just like the links.
Considering how important off-page optimization is in google, how would they have done this? //that almost sounds like I am criticizing you, I don't mean it that way //just trying to understand how that happens
Beside the point, but that's not neccesarily true unless pages from this forum are appearing in their cache. You can punch in any URL before 1bu.com and you will see that page. They are grabbing the page to be displayed from the URL that is being visited, grabbing each web page, replacing the URL with their version, adding their link at the bottom of the page and displaying it ..... which is why it's taking a bit of time to display each page. P.S: I wasn't admiring their ethics, just the idea. I still think it's quite a smart idea ..... doesn't make it legal or ethical. Just brilliant!
I appreciate and want feedback on this topic, and will say that some of the replies have been very good and helpful. Thanks to all who seem to be helping to find a solution. However I am getting irritated by dfsweb because he has dug himself into a deep hole yet he will defend his prior statements till he is blue in the face. Why are you arguing with me buddy? Why are you trying to make me see the good in this pal??? dfsweb, you seem to admire and like these hackers who are stealing (bad in my book). Good for you. I don't like them STEALING and would like to find a solution so they do not display my words and images and video on their URL's. dsfweb, your defending the the THIEFS will not change my mind. Maybe you want to be hijacked by them. Good for you. There is zero good about them using my content and stealing my bandwidth and me not getting 1 penny or any benefit out of it. It is hurting all of us and if you don't see it - too bad. I just don't see the good in it which you are defending. dfsweb - I am NOT getting any extra TRAFFIC as you say. Only if you consider them hijacking images and video as extra traffic. My html pages are NOT getting hits, just the stuff that eats server bandwidth. I pay for the bandwidth and they get FREE PageRank sucking off of my bandwidth and ceativity. My CJ Ads go to "page not found'. Tell me how that is good? I do not have 1 link to one of my domains on these hijacked pages - how is that good my friend??? My ads on my hijacked pages do not work. I do not get credit. No credit for backlinks (they are all their URL's - not mine). Have I convinced you yet this is not a good thing??? Or you still wanna fight? You seem to wanna beat this to death to defend your PRIOR statements. I'm getting tired of fighting with you. If anyone can point out a valid positive effect of this theft, I will be open to it, but right now I have not found 1 good thing. dfsweb, As for the Yahoo advertising comparison, I think you're in a different time zone than I am because that makes no sense at all. My page disappears off of Google and they rank where I should. I'm not bext to them... I'm gone - they're in. Can't see any benefit to that, but I am sure you'll still try to convince me otherwise. I'm gonna go ride my bike. dfsweb, I don't respect anything you've written so far and think that you should think about what you say a bit more carefully before you insult me and the others with erroneous info on this topic. And to all others - I apologize for having gone off on dfsweb like I did. He is the only one I have any differences with so please do not take it personally. I do value your feedback. Forums are strange. They can become really hostile places. It's things like this that remind me why I don't spend more time in them and speak my mind. There is always a confrontation waiting. Thanks, Peace out! Mike
I was creating an index of schools in the US in an effort to beef up my student finance aff site a while back. I thought it would be a great idea to fire up my ASP .Net scraper script and mirror the contents of every single college and university website, on my own site. Took about one week to get a complete and total ban from Google. Obviously, when one one site starts to exceed a sites normal growth curve, especially by a magnitude of thousandfolds, red alerts go off on Google. These guys in china will get theirs, if they havent already.
Yes, Forums do become hostile places. I thought that I had the right to voice my opinion. But, I guess I was wrong! And, if that message was meant just for me ..... maybe you should have send me a PM. Anyway, if you really want to get out of this mess ..... add some PHP code to each of your pages. (Or any other code depending on what you usually use) Check the URL that is being opened and if the URL contains 1bu.com ..... block it or display a blank page. Save your bandwidth and all that. Peace!!
Its behaving as a web proxy... Not exactly deliberate "hijacking", although the effects are detrimental. Probably whoever said it's trying to get around chinese censorship is closest to the mark. I'm sure Google will take care of it.
Please check out this page: http://www.1bu.com/setfilter/set.asp It appears that they will remove your site if you enter your domain here. Hope this helps. Roger
Thanks RTH, do u read Chinese? That remove page is confusing. Seems they want me to put a file on my domain to stop them from accessing it.... geez.... I have over 100 web sites... whatta nightmare but thanks RTH you are a gentleman for finding it.
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Yeah it's not too clear whether it is a 'Submit your site and we'll index it with our super sleuth filter and make you disappear.' or a 'Submit your site and we won't ever drop by again, sorry.' type of submit. It seems to be the second one though but they might well be collecting urls to spider.
I see they moved this thread to "website reviews"... now that makes a lot of sense... hope ya'll pay attention because you'll need this info too if ya don't wanna be hijacked! Thanks again RJH.
I'm with dfsweb on this one. If you go to 'their' copy of my page on their domain, and order one of my services, the order comes straight to me Still, I think what they are doing is dubious, but I'm not going to sweat it.
T0PS3O, thanks for sticking up to the "PR Expert". Like you said it's not personal, it's the misinformation that needs to be addressed. Misinformation is what he was spewin'! Where it came from I don't know, but he certainly didn't read my first post. In any event - keep an eye open as like I said they have already crawled this forum no doubt and google may have already indexed URL's found in links here. Mike
Christopher my man - did you really say this: "I'm with dfsweb on this one. If you go to 'their' copy of my page on their domain, and order one of my services, the order comes straight to me". You must not have read all the replies prior that pointed out the AD LINKS on THEIR pages do not work and do not give proper credit/commission. Example - Commission Junction ads go to "page not found". Also... It's not a COPY of the page - they rewrite the page and replace all the URL's with their own except image links. Are you still with dfsweb on this one??? Please go to the beginning for all the deatils buddy or trust me that there is nothing good about the Chinese Hijacking dilema :'>
opps, just read about the part where your cj links go bad. That's unfortunate. But if they were really smart (in a very bad way) they would be replacing your cj code and other affiliate program id's with their own. Any good affiliate program would shut them down pretty quick though (at least the ones I work with) for stealing other agents content.