China has anti-satellite weapons...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. #1
    Aw, shoot, this ain't good:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/01/18/china.missile/index.html

    Whole article is interesting: read it.

    Time to up our space defense funding.... or do something serious about this. China, unlike N. Korea has resources and more motive. The only thing they would hate is losing their trade route with the United States, but even then, it's not like a communist dictator would care about his people's jobs.
     
    chulium, Jan 18, 2007 IP
  2. MrMOJO

    MrMOJO Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    Seems like, even going against the brainless liberal wishes, Bush was right to get a jump start on Space Weaponry last year, pushing them into their first paces of development.

    Amazing the left kept saying "no weapons in space!" but gave no thought as to our adversaries having them too.

    Once again, Bush is right.
     
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  3. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I think we should have all paid more attention to reagan, afterall, he was the one that started the Star Wars space program.
     
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    rlarouc Active Member

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    Actually, I think this is kind of funny.

    The United States asserts a right to "freedom of action in space". So then shouldn't China also be free to do what they want in space. If that happens to be sending up a missle to take out a satellite ... well, that's "freedom of action in space".

    I am curious how the U.S. feels about Chinese satellites over America?

    I also find the comments by John Pike kind of funny ...

    "If we, for instance, got into a conflict over Taiwan, one of the first things they'd probably do would be to shoot down all of our lower Earth-orbit spy satellites, putting out our eyes,"

    Well, if you go to war ... isn't that what happens. You take out the enemy's assets? The U.S. does it all the time in war situations. I am not bashing the U.S. for this. That's what you do at war. It just seems a bit cry-baby-ish to complain about an enemy doing the same to you.
     
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  5. politician

    politician Peon

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    I don't see the big deal. They tested a missle on their own satellite, something the U.S. has done before. Communist or not, they aren't spouting hate across the world or making threats about it, they are looking at their own self defense interests.
     
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  6. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    Oh come one :D people

    And what those weather satellites are 100-300 miles up... Welcome to the 60s China :D

    United states destroyed satellite way back on September 13, 1985 !
    It was F-15 and ASAT missile.


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  7. latehorn

    latehorn Guest

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    Russia have also done it. Nice pics, iatbm!
     
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  8. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Weapons war will always be around...

    A country starting to build a weapon is enough for other countries to build anti those weapons or stronger weapons...

    When will it just end? and perhaps spend that money on something useful
     
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  9. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    weapons are not useful ?? You must be kidding me. Weapons industry is the "pusher" of all other industries. As I remember internet came out of some sort of military project or a "weapon" if you want :D

    As for this Chinese satellite thing ... like I said Welcome to the 60s China ....
     
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  10. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    You obviously didn't read the whole article. It poses a viable threat against the United States. We have more satellites than anybody, and our satellites are not just weather satellites like what the Chinese have.

    Yeah, and an offense to the United States Strategic Forces, if they target one of our satellites...

    They have few, if any. They're mostly for weather. Remember, China has little freedom of TV and Internet, so there's not much of those up there. They might have a few communications ones, but nothing really vital.

    Um, he's NOT crying("-ish") and it's only in the interest of national defense.

    The question is, can we trust China?
     
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  11. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    Every country has the rights to WMD and missilesa., America does not have a F****** right to control other countires unless it destroys its F***** WMD
     
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  12. politician

    politician Peon

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    True. Another question is, do we have a choice?

    Of the "enemy" (and I use that very loosely) countries, China seems like a far lesser evil. One nice thing, their population is laregly pro-American.
     
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  13. politician

    politician Peon

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    I view it sorta like respect. It's not a God given right to have, it's something you earn over time.
     
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  14. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    If you look at China history you will know that throughout the centuries they had the mightiest army and their ships were stationed in every possible port in the world. They did not touch anyone ! They were there just to trade .....

    As for military today. Hmm they have Russia up north and Russia has much more advanced military.... then you look at Pacific ... ohoho bunch of US ships cruising there....no way .....

    China needs some 50 years to become real world super-power like US and Russia are today ..... US is power because of its large naval force ( US have the number of aircraft carriers more than the rest of the world combined ) and Russia on the other side has missile technology and no one, even US is not even close to technology that russians have .....

    I think we have nothing to worry about some weather satellite shot down :D
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    Every country has the right for all kinds of weapons....like I have the right to buy a car exactly the same as my neighbor..... now if I can afford it and lately afford it to maintain that is some other question....
    Later on if I drive my car carefully and I do not pose a threat to others that are on the road I am good. But if I drive drunk and kill someone I go to prison and my car is taken away .....
     
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  16. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    Nice one chulium. So the USA owns space now does it???

    Space is pretty much an open market, no country owns it. :D

    There's more shit floating about up there than there is in this P&R forum. [​IMG]
     
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  17. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    *Sighs* did not read the article, did you?

    In other words, so you can understand this with your own mind, unless something hinders the free action of space (e.g. missiles and other anti-space-object 'things'), the United States has little or no problem with it.

    Well duh... when did I ever say we owned space? Please, do show.

    Well, I dunno about that.... since I've been reading some of your and Gworld's posts recently :)
     
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  18. politician

    politician Peon

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    Point taken, but I view it more like this. If you're 15, get drunk, and beat your elderly neighbor senseless with a brick, do you have a right to get your license when you're 16? You did nothing wrong with a "car", but I don't trust you. Earn my trust and act like an adult, and I'll give you privledges of an adult.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Actually, the US is the country who made the atomic bomb. It developed it, it faced the moral dilemma behind it. Russia stole the technology from us and now it's everywhere. America is the only country to have earned the right to possess them. Everyone has glommed on after the fact.

    They were so busy wondering if they could; they didn't think about if they should or not.
     
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  20. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    Why should another country earn the trust of some american? ,
     
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