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Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by ly2, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    #41
    You actually did trick people into clicking the ads.
    Geesh, it was right there: click below for whatever, then you put between where people should have clicked an adsense!
    I am thinking, when you emailed google, you had something a bit different on the site that what we all saw.

    I feel sorry for you.
    Next time you try to build a company, do it correctly.
    SEMrush
     
    iowadawg, Feb 11, 2006 IP
    SEMrush
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    anusha Active Member

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  3. Jackson_Hu

    Jackson_Hu Peon

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    #43
    Those kind of web sites use RSS(really simple syndication) and I saw lots of them on the internet .One post on another forum mentioned about if this is a TOS violation but come out with the information Google is OK with them ~

    I would say this kind of web site is in the gray area .
     
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  4. wentworth

    wentworth Guest

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    #44
    Everybody please report this site also:

    http://www.lawntennisnews.com

    They are using text ads from YPN, Adsense and Adbrite on the same pages.
     
    wentworth, Feb 11, 2006 IP
  5. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    #45
    I don't get paid by google, so why should I report sites to them?
    Better to get the urls of the ads, don't click on the ads, just get the urls.
    These are the advertisers.
    Tell them where their ads are showing.
    They will let google know in a heartbeat that they don't like their ads going on a scam site!

    I found this nugget at another adwords forum.
    Said to be better and faster this way, cause google listens to advertisers, not peons who want to report sites they run across.
     
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  6. jimrthy

    jimrthy Guest

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    #46
    So, in other words, you're probably completely overextending yourself and trying to do too much at once. That's fine, if you can pull it off. Most people can't. Those that do generally can't manage it for long.

    If you have to work the 40-60 hour a week job to pay for school, forget about starting your own business. Or forget about school.

    What are your goals? Is the point to start your own business? Are you going to school to learn about running your own business? Fine. Finish school first.

    Are you planning to start a computer business, and going to school to learn some branch of computer science? Either change your major to a business degree (and forget about starting your business just now) or drop school.

    There are, of course, about 3,107,896,845 other possibilities (don't ask...it's a complicated algorithm to compute :D). But this might give you the general idea.
     
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    jimrthy Guest

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    #47
    I'm wouldn't be too quick to condemn him. I was toying, a while back, with a certain site idea that would flagrantly violate the TOS. But it seemed like a valid use of adsense to me (one that would help the advertisers)*, so I wrote to google to ask permission to do this before I ever bothered to do anything with the idea. The reply was, basically, "You don't have to ask our permission to do that."

    I haven't had time to get around to implementing that idea. I imagine a dozen other people have already taken off and done it already. But I kept the email (somewhere) in case it turns out that it's still vaguely original when I have a chance to do it.

    My guess is that the rules change depending on who's doing the answering.

    Although I agree, from what I've heard described, that this situation does seem to be an instance that would hurt advertisers.

    * I'm not revealing details. It wasn't a "screw you, advertiser" thing. It was a concept that, technically, violated the TOS. It's one of those niche situations where the violation would be a Good Thing. I was completely up front with Google about what I had in mind. And I honestly believe the advertisers would be happy with the results. I completely agree to abide with the TOS. That includes the amendment that, if I come up with a scenario where everyone profits by a violation to that TOS and we all agree to that particular situation, then I should be able to publish that site.

    I don't know the specifics about this particular case. If Google customer support truly did tell him this site was OK (and I'm as sceptical about this as the rest of you), then I think I can see the position where his account should not have been cancelled. Just a "Remove this site from the 'Net, we've decided it's no longer acceptable" slap on the wrist kind of thing.
     
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    EGS Notable Member

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    #48
    Man that must really suck to be iByPass...
    You should try Clicksor as an alternative. They're pretty decent. :)

    Clicksor + their popup option = revenue.
    G'luck.
     
    EGS, Feb 11, 2006 IP
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    #49
    Huh. That looks pretty flagrant to me. I just saw a couple of ads with a "Try a different search" form in between. Oh, and the "Get Firefox" and Google Search thrown in for good measure.

    I've heard that over-reliance on RSS can get you banned. I figure it probably relies on the mood of the guy who goes through and reviews your ads.
     
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    jimrthy Guest

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    #50

    OK, fair enough. How do we do this? When I mouseover one of those ads, I don't see the URL in my status bar. I got bored looking at the page source, because I just really don't care all that much. (Bad attitude on my part, I agree. I just have better things to do with my time than to do google's job for them).
     
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  11. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    #51
    Yeah, the link ads do not show the url, but the image/text do.

    But I am like you, google pays me, I may do that.
    But until that day ever comes, I am not doing their job.
     
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    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    #52
    well, at least they did something about this site.

    Meanwhile, a site I reported over a week ago is still showing ads.
     
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    #53
    ditto. PM me the site name. I'll report them. And I'll PM you the site I need you to report.:D
     
    wentworth, Feb 12, 2006 IP
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    ly2 Peon

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    #54
    "Click the ads! All you have to do is click one or two ads every time you visit the site and you help boost our ad revenue which goes directly to paying the sites bills."

    "This also means that we now have a larger hosting bill to take care of. Each month the google adsense ad's and donation's must exceed $130 USD. If the funding does not pay for the server every month then we will have to take the service down. All you have to do to show your support is click on the google ad's as you browse with greenrabbit and iBypass."

    Thats bullshit.
    GTFO of here with your sob stories, as an adwords user this directly offends me. I'm not concerned with your college, rent, bills, or hosting. I'm only concerned about ME and the wasted money I spend on adwords because a bunch of highschool kids are clicking on my ad's so they can access blocked porn sites.

    WWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....read the fucking TOS next time.
     
    ly2, Feb 12, 2006 IP
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    Infinitron Peon

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    #55
    Seems lawntennisnews took off the ads. That was quick, was it because of the report or because someone contacted the site?
     
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    #56
    adbrite ads aren't contextual, so i'm pretty sure you can use them along with adsense. however, ypn ads are contextually targeted, so using both ypn and adsense is a violation of the adsense tos.
     
    danzor, Feb 14, 2006 IP
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    discoverclips Peon

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