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Cheating sites list + Detecting tool for faked PageRank.

Discussion in 'Google' started by nifrou, Jun 5, 2007.

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    nifrou, Jun 5, 2007 IP
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  2. jazz7620

    jazz7620 Banned

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    How can you fake PR? Isn't it something that google toolbar tells you?
     
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    nifrou Active Member

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    Hi !
    No google toolbar can't do that.
    I try to explain, but english is not my birth langage.
    many kind of way to fake a PR.
    4 instance. if you see that googleboot request your site you say to "sorry this url wasn't used anymore (redirection) rigth know this site is on wikipedia.org".
    Like this google give the PR of wikipedia of your site.
    ..
    ..
    when it was a normal user you could show your 200$ linking directory with faked PR.
    and when the user ask the PR at google, google say PR9 (the one of wikipedia).
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    and this faked PR have no value.
     
    nifrou, Jun 5, 2007 IP
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    CarlosP Peon

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    You can fake your site PR using 301(permanently moved) redirictions.
     
    CarlosP, Jun 5, 2007 IP
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    ezguy Well-Known Member

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    #5
    your script does not work i put in google and it says it has no page rank when it has page rank 10 :) same with yahoo
     
    ezguy, Jun 5, 2007 IP
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    nifrou Active Member

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    jazz7620 Banned

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    #7
    Thanks for the explanation.
     
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    nifrou Active Member

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    it was a bug with all PR10.
    Fixed rigth now. (it was the first time i deal with PR10)
    and we could test yahoo or => google
     
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    igme Banned

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    I always trust livepr.raketforskning.com for fake PR.Gudluck to your tools.
     
    igme, Jun 5, 2007 IP
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    nifrou Active Member

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    In livepr i don't see any tool to detect false PR ????
     
    nifrou, Jun 6, 2007 IP
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    nifrou Active Member

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    for instance take a faked URL : www.smilies-gifs.com

    with my tool : http://www.webmaster-rank.info/?fake_pr-www.smilies-gifs.com
    with livepr : http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=www.smilies-gifs.com
    Mine see and say it was a faked PR
    But livepr.raketforskning.com don't see that it was faked.
     
    nifrou, Jun 6, 2007 IP
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    nifrou Active Member

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    Here is the new version of cheating detector.
    lot of improve : better graphs , list, easier to use
    and adds : Http header + fake Http header + false TLD detector + 3 level of cheating & fake redirection detector.

    It still was not translated french, but i will work to improve this tool and finish the translation last month.
     
    nifrou, Aug 29, 2007 IP
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    That's a great tool! I didn't know how to fake a PR. Thanks for explaining it and making the tool for us.
     
    usasportstraining, Aug 29, 2007 IP
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    #14
    Very nice tool!

    I posted about it on my new blog here: A Cool New PR Tool I Found

    The French does get in the way a bit, but other than that I found it very easy to use. Are you going to keep a database of URLs that have fake PR?
     
    FastWeb, Aug 29, 2007 IP
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    Thank you usasportstraining. I wrote a long article but in french.
    The main thing it to make believe Google false thuing, like a Url is not used to be a web site but a redirection of an other one ( good PR one, to display a high PR)

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    Thx FastWeb, ;)
    thhx to speak about this article in your blog ;)
    I want yo work to finish to translate it. (but not sure i could find time in the next 3 weeks, i hope)
    Yes, i'll keep the database of founded URL (don't know what to do with, maybe in archive or create a fourth indicator with)
     
    nifrou, Aug 30, 2007 IP
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    ohh thats really cool
    thanks for sharing
     
    Batista, Aug 30, 2007 IP
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    everybody can detect it.

    * use info:sitename.com results
    * use link:sitename.com results.

    if both returns nothink, pr may be fake
     
    trichnosis, Aug 30, 2007 IP
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    Lol ur rigth, but have a look tool in
    * http header
    * cache allowed or not
    * return code 301 OR 302 OR 404 ETC...
    faster with this tool for me
     
    tonino_6666, Sep 8, 2007 IP
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    Thx, your right tonino :
    this tool don't use only the result of the info: command
    of course you could use the info command to check for fake PR

    but..... this tool use 8 differents informations to check the validity of a website
    - fake URL redirection
    - http header value (no-cache, 404, 200, etc..)
    - The redirection number (300,301,302)
    - the stolen URL
    - the stolen PR
    - the fake PR
    - the fake URL
    - domain name

    + A list of fake site
    + the old values (cause these webmaster use to stop cheating for few day when people talk about theses site on forums)


    to do a report this tool call 5 different URL (Google info + Google cache + Google PRa + Google PRb + site header) and check 17 different parameters

    And the tool translate all theses information's in human language.
     
    nifrou, Oct 20, 2007 IP