I have felt that there is a lot of rush on DP in the CC section, mostly of the writers who are writing it for so low prices. Their threads also have many reviews where it has been quoted by many buyers that for that prices the quality they get is satisfactory. Although time should be a factor but quality is what takes you places. So i decided to make this thread through which i would like to send a small message to all those writers who quote gibberish prices to get the projects. You are not just killing the quality, you are even killing the legitimate rates that any good writer should command.
They're doing no such thing. 1. No one can kill the quality of your work but you. 2. No one can determine the rates you "should command" but you. Only you can choose to accept low-paying gigs. If you don't like the rates in the content creation section of DP, then stay out of the content creation section of DP, and spend your time looking for gigs that are actually in your target market. It's really that simple.
Great advice! The point was that the cheap crap being sold in the content area is killing the business on DP for quality writers. If all quality writers took your advice the content area along with most of DP will be nothing but crap. Do you have any clue how the economy works? Like any other product in the world, if a cheap knock off comes along, it affects the market and price for that product. If you do not lower your prices, you either earn nothing or you quit selling. I am really shocked as a moderator of DP that your advice is always negative and your answer is to leave a forum or DP as a whole. As a member of the staff, would it not be more positive to encourage more members to be active at DP than to run them off?
I would say the CC forum is overrun by crappy writers, undercutting prices all the time. It's really frustrating.
If you though that these low rates we everything, you should see how much the actual writer gets. People who pick up lots of articles at low rates pass it on to others after keeping their commission. There is another view to this scenario. If the client really wants good work and you are able to provide it, you can ask and get higher rates too.
they usually use duplicate content that already make over on it (rewrite) but it depend on you better to look before buy
That's precisely the garbage too many people here believe. Thanks for helping me make my point. When people assume others are to blame for them not getting the types of gigs they want, they'll continue not getting those gigs. The fact is that, no, the cheap crap is not killing the business on DP for quality writers. As I, and others who sell at much "higher than DP" average rates here, have pointed out for months (if not years) there is a LOT of better business for writers here - but you won't find it publicly advertised. Anyone familiar with the freelance marketplace as a whole will know that's not unusual in any way (the same way many top-paying magazines don't advertise rates publicly for fear of being bombarded with queries from people who can't write but want the cash). That's funny considering how many writers here who used to believe the garbage of having to lower prices to compete have come to me over the last year or so thanking me for the reality check. As soon as some of them reevaluated how they looked at it (after listening to advice based on just about 10 years freelancing btw), they raised rates significantly and still operate quite successfully here. In fact, I'm interviewing one of those DP writers for my freelance writing blog soon who got a clue and managed to raise her rates successfully tenfold. So yeah... my advice obviously sucks. I do. But apparently you don't understand the difference between products and services, or markets from a marketing perspective rather than simply an economical one. There is no single market for freelance writers. Those who understand value, and want content that represents their company in a positive light, will never get sucked into penny-per-word crap from writers who know nothing about their topic areas beyond a quick Google search. That's reality. Any writer who doesn't know how to find and target the appropriate markets for their abilities and desired price range won't survive in the long haul. As I said, my advice has helped quite a few people here build better careers. Exactly how would telling them to work for crap rates that are unsustainable help them? It wouldn't. As for my role at DP, my (volunteer) job here is not to build traffic to DP's marketplace. But my job as a member is to offer helpful, realistic advice when I have it to give. The vast majority of writers here need a reality check. And those who choose to operate within the extremely low-paying markets probably have better things to do with their time than complain about the market they're facilitating (like churning out a few dozen cheap pieces just to make a few bucks). I don't sugarcoat. I don't really care if some people don't like that. If speaking my mind helps even one person take their career to the next, more serious, level than I'll continue to do just that. And frankly, it has.
there are two type of cheap writers on dp. one that write as excellent as 10$ per article writers and one that write what we call as unreadable.
The best writers here won't write for $10 per article. That's just the high end of the low end market.
The price people charge does not change the quality of the articles. What's going on is probably these 3 things that follow: 1. There is too many people trying to offer writing services so the price is going down. No demand..... 2. The recession is causing people to pluck at any profit possible doing freelance stuff like a vulture. I can't write myself and if I was dying for cash then I'd probably do the same. 3. The price you are thinking that is fair and honest is actually highway robbery to the time put in writing the articles. Please understand that the amount you pay for a writer is not going to change the scale of how good the work end up being.
I beg to differ. Let's look at it from another angle. My target is earning $abc per day by writing articles. If I am paid that entire sum for a single article, I'll gladly spend researching on the same for a good amount of time, re-reading what I have written to ensure there are no mistakes (at least not any that my limited knowledge of English can observe). However, if I am paid just $1-$2 for a 500 words article, I'll just visit `ezinearticles', find out the first article on that topic, glance at it briefly and write an article by rewording it, even expending the original text. So, `hoodia is good for your health, Oprah uses it for maintaining her figure' (13 words) would become. `If you want to see the good of your health that is precious for you, remember to meet Hoodia. She loves to take care of your health. She (Hoodia) also loves Oprah and has helped her to continue her number' (40 words)
Writers determine their own rates. If they think the rates are acceptable, they accept the project. If the rates are not accepted, they can decline. If they accept the job it means they are ok with the rates. However, with recession going on, the rates do go down the hill.
If you currently visit the CC section, you can view some of the threads stating $1/400 words, $2.5/500 words, $2/400 words and so on. Even one of the most popular writing service (i'm not naming) in the CC section charges $2.5/500 words and their thread is filled with good reviews with common statement - The articles need some editing. This is my point that when you are writing so cheap you are just bothered about getting the material right and with speed. However, when you are being paid higher for the same article you tend to invest more time in writing and these kinds of reviews are not hears then. At least ask the most legitimate price. Obviously in starting you do get lower rates but after you have established ask for the rates that you deserve. If you are not doing it, then i have only one thing to say may be you are blithe ignorant to your own good. At the end it's all personal decision.
Yawn...oh, wait, what? Was everybody talking? Oh, gosh, sorry...I thought I was just hearing a conversation we've had about a gazillion times already. Didn't know it was a new, old conversation. Sigh. Recap of all these threads: Writers write too low. That bad. No, good writers not write low. That good. No, recession, you must lower rates. 'Specially because me either buyer who want you to or writer too scared to charge appropriate rates and want to drag you down to me level. Mmmm, recession. Me must sell house and car then to accommodate new low, "competitive" rates. Me die from starving on new rates, can't eat. Me dead. Okay. Done. Now, does anyone have anything NEW to discuss?
Good point. Thread closed. Anyone else wanting to talk about cheap writers, how the economy is supposedly driving rates down, etc. can do it in one of the existing threads. Here are two talking about different aspects of it to get you started. I'm sure a search will turn up at least a dozen more. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1196686 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1177522