Changing serps per country.

Discussion in 'Google' started by martialarm, Jul 23, 2006.

  1. #1
    Changing serps per country.

    I have travelled to different countries recently and found that for my main keywords in google-com that I am moving up very high in some places.

    Is this because i am signed into google and they know I am the webmaster for our site and so the data center I am shown is good for that countries listing?

    Example I was in Philippines for research for a while and went up to number 4 for "martial arts supplies" but no real traffic increase and I checked McDar and the data centers do not show the site up in top ten.

    But I continued to check it on just my home page google seach and I am in the top 5 when I searched from the Philippines.

    I assume because it is country based even though I was not using google.ph

    Our customers and in USA and UK, Germany etc and it is disturbing that google will take my current travelling location as important in ranking.

    Will this lead to webmasters tricking google by logging into google service with a UK or USA IP address etc?
     
    martialarm, Jul 23, 2006 IP
  2. mac2005chris

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    #2
    Its not just country its area specific. They all tend to be very similar but update at diffent times. I can be on the phone in the northwest and someone in london gets a diffent result. I believe it just depend when they update but you usually get similar results.
     
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  3. Wiep

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    #3
    I am seeing different results for about three months now. When I open Google.com in the Netherlands (nothing signed in, all cookies deleted), my website ranks 4th for my main (English) keyword. When I use an American proxy, it comes up at #32. This also explaines why my traffic is a bit disappointing.

    So I would say yes, the serps could be different in other countries.
     
    Wiep, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  4. Travis

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    I've always thought that it was per datacenter. Not so much per country =\. Ra
     
    Travis, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  5. vnviews

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    #5
    I noticed the same. For instance, when I search for "insurance" from vietnam, the first in SERP is baoviet.com.vn, a big insurance company in vietnam. This is site in vietnamese that has keyword "insurance" in meta tags only. I believe that you can't reach it if you search from some where out of vietnam.
    Maybe google changes its algo.
     
    vnviews, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  6. AtanasYanev

    AtanasYanev Active Member

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    #6
    Buy hosting from the country your visitors are(or you are targeting), buy .vn/.co.uk/.bg/.ru or whatever coutry domain is and you will have better chance to get into top10 :)
     
    AtanasYanev, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  7. Bondat

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    #7
    I agree. Based on experience I must say this is true.
     
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  8. Wiep

    Wiep Peon

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    I've got a .com (hosted in the US) and I still get much better serps in the Netherlands than in the US or UK...
     
    Wiep, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  9. AtanasYanev

    AtanasYanev Active Member

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    #9
    Wiep, yea, US market is the hardest - MANY, MANY competitors. Alos, .com is ABSOLUTELY NOT USA domain :) .us is what you should use if you want +0.5-1% rankings ;) Are you sure your hosting company is actually IN USA ? I mean their servers? There are millions of companies, offering offshore hostings (cheap resellers ;) ).

    My websites are all hosted in USA, but I'm also getting great positions in European datacenters, but that cost me extra 5-10% efforts to achieve this :)
     
    AtanasYanev, Jul 24, 2006 IP
  10. Wiep

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    Atanas, I know that .com is not a US domain name, but it is not country dependent either. We have our own servers in the US, so that shouldn't be a problem... I have already accepted that we have to do our best even more to get the same rankings in the US as well
     
    Wiep, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  11. EricBlackwell

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    I agree with Antanas...if you want to OPTIMIZE for .jp, better to host in Japan and so forth. No use having to spend the EXTRA effort when all things being equal, you will lose to a locally hosted site. Why give yourself a disadvantage from the start?

    Best;

    Eric
     
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  12. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    Yes but what I mean is I think google knows that I am the site owner and changes the rank according to which country I am in.

    My hosting is in the USA and has been since 2001.

    But I was in different areas in Asia for a while and the amount of traffic I got from that area was huge.

    So I am saying that not only where you are hosted but google links the owners location and applies this to the data centers.
     
    martialarm, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  13. AtanasYanev

    AtanasYanev Active Member

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    First time I hear this theory :D
    Can someone from Kambodja log into my google acc and .. send me many Kambodjans ;)
     
    AtanasYanev, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  14. vaniaul

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    #14
    Even I thought it to be Data-center specific, am amazed to find that Google's SERPs are country specific. Anyhow, as martialarm just said, now the webmasters can trick Google with the hosting too.
     
    vaniaul, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  15. martialarm

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    Just to cover this in detail and see if there is a solution to this - BUMP

    My .com site is hosted in the states and USA and UK visitors are my preferred buyers on the site.

    I also now know that google and perhaps other engines track the webmasters location.

    I spent some time in Australia and my Ozie visitors rose and USA visitors tanked.

    I then moved to Asia and the local Asian visitors went sky high especially from the exact city I was living in.

    So google tracks my IP address and when I log into sitemaps and google personalised search they know all about my location and this effects my site in the serps for these different locations.

    I wish this wasnt so and I would appreciate help in combating this - perhaps login in to any google services through an IP address in the States - any service like this?

    I would be interested in Matt Cutts comments on this!!
     
    martialarm, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  16. chachacallis

    chachacallis Well-Known Member

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    #16
    did you actually try it without logging into any of your services and see what would happen.
     
    chachacallis, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  17. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    It takes time for the data centers to change once I have moved countries.

    Now I dont want to log into sitemaps, adwords, adsense and personalised search as I dont want google to see my IP address because I am currently not in the States.

    I feel this is completely damaging and so if I want to use these google services I must somehow cloak my IP address of my laptop to a USA or UK IP address.

    Anyone got some advice on this?
     
    martialarm, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  18. martialarm

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    To combat this observation I have begun to add my prefered country names in my site text and links
     
    martialarm, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  19. Keone

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    #19
    I alway's struggle with this. For instance when I do a check on mc dar or @ seologs I get to see a position 11 but when I check washingtonpost . com for instance and do a google search there I show up at position 8

    I guess the only way to do a real geographical result check is to ask someone who lives there.
     
    Keone, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  20. seo-mumbai

    seo-mumbai Well-Known Member

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    #20
    i heard that traffic from usa and europe have good value then others and even google update there more offen so on i,am not sure about what actually google do
     
    seo-mumbai, Aug 12, 2006 IP