Changes to Directories PR

Discussion in 'Directories' started by qwerty88, Jan 25, 2007.

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    qwerty88, Jan 25, 2007 IP
  2. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    I think all the results are irrelevant as the data centers never synchronize and are not accurate

    When accurate data is available on data centers then maybe the stats will have some influence

    All data that has different result values cannot be valid

    If you have a car with speedometer showing that you are driving at 100Km/hr and you are actually travel 70 Kilometes in 1 Hour and you have maintained a constant speed of 100K's do you believe the speedometer

    No you believe the actual distance you have travelled as it is accurate you only travelled 70 Kilometers

    2,3, or even 4 different values in data centers is not accurate when trying to benchmark an output value
     
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    Freewebspace Notable Member

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    Yes they are downgrading Pr

    The directory sites which has sitewide links are being downgraded

    I have two of my sites downgraded to PR4 and PR2

    and these two sites had more than 10 links sitewide
     
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  4. Instigator

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    Nope.... there have been new changes to the DC's.

    One of mine http://www.1stwebsitedirectory.com had a PR0 across all DC's the other day, now it's showing PR4 on a few. There has been a new update within the recent update.

    ask-dir.com now showing PR4
     
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    Yes these are new values.
     
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    moneymakingguru Well-Known Member

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    My directory has changed from 0 - 4

    http://www.add-url-directory.com/

    Take a look...

     
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  7. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    No one disagreed with you about the values

    The point is that the data centers are unable to synchronize the values

    Synchronized values mean that if you measure data from 100 data centers and they all output the same value
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    If 100 inputs equals 100 outputs to a set value you have a sychronized value parameter

    If you have differing values you have in-accurate data
     
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    BlueRaccoon.org PR0 - PR4 ;)
     
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  9. Instigator

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    They're unable to synchronize because some DC's are on the old infrastucture.

    There are two sets of values for sites which were updated a couple of weeks ago, the new PR and PR based on the old infrastructure.

    For sites that weren't updated a couple of weeks ago there could be three sets. Old frastructure PR, recent PR and new PR.

    I started this about two weeks before the update began. Is now showing PR3 http://www.addyourownpage.com
     
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    GreenStalkDirectory Well-Known Member

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    I'm seeing site's with 3 different PR values on different datacenters that were updated a couple of weeks ago.
     
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  12. Instigator

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    You're right there is this one 64.233.183.18 that I have just found which has still to be updated. I'm sure there are more, but when I use racketforskning, it seems to show a varied range.

    The point I am making is that as stated in the first post, sites which weren't updated a couple of week ago, have now changed.
     
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  13. banless

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    This has nothing to do with the drop in pr to those directories. What I do know is this, most directory owners go out and buy up a bunch of links in order to boost their pr, google knows about this, the problem is that most owners do not hold on to those links long enough to get the full benifit they just drop the links because they think that the links are not doing them any good or they can no longer afford to pay for them.

    Once you start droping links you can expect to see a drop in pr as well, does'nt matter if you go out and get new links because those links will not take effect for a few updates. This is why it is important that when you buy links for sites or directories you need to buy them for a least a 6 month time frame this will give you plenty of time have those links go through and get the pr benifit as well.

    Google is getting smarter with this I have been watching and back tracking how they are doing these pr updates and from what I can tell this is how they are doing it. Index-it.net got pr 5 on the 1st update it was in, since then the site has gone 2 full updates without getting any pr update to the home page. I was expecting a pr 6 2 updates ago and this update I was expecting at least a 7 possible 8 but it did'nt happen, the pr value that most site are getting are from at least 2 updates ago and therefore this why we are seeing what we are seeing. In some case this is not true but it seems that directories which are shooting for pretty high pr will have to wait.

    I believe google wants to see who in is it for the long haul and not just trying to boost pr in order to sell the site or do what ever it is they plan to do. I think it is a good move by google to weed out those who are just trying to manipulate the system. Those that hold on to the high pr links they are buying will in the long run see the pr benifit they have been waiting for.

    As I have always said, for the most part you have to pay to play if you do in fact plan on really playing, other than that most owners will keep seeing these kind of results. Stay true to the links that you are buying and stick it out for more than a few updates, if you do that then I am sure you will get the pr that you have been waiting for and when that time comes the pr will be well deserved.

    Sorry for such a long post :).
     
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  14. miko67

    miko67 Well-Known Member

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    No prob. It was a good post and I for one believe you are absolutely right :cool:

    /miko67
     
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  15. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #15

    just 1 comment ... LMAO! ok 2.... PERIOD!

    Sitewides to relevent content is 1 of the best choices you can make!

    dont believe me? look at all my sites... they were ALL upgraded and all i did was "Sitewides" or Perminent links and see the results...

    ALL of mine went from PR0 to PR5s...Even an my ADULT directorys that most would Not Accept has manged to be one off the very
    few Adult directories that can offer any adult site a PR5 link.

    So much for myths about directorys and adult sites...hehehh

    Watch as 1 off my sites will be PR7 this coming year ;)

    Rest assured that the Tide has turned...Watch my waves :p

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    malcolm, I can't agree with you any more. Sitewide links hurt PR for some extent.
     
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    Ok so you dont agree with me?

    Regardless i will continue to do what ive been doing and
    watching my sites climb rather then fall in PR....

    If you read banlesses Post you will understand that sitewides have nothing to
    do with whether it climbs or not but How long those links actually remain on the site
    as most PR updates are actually OLD updates....

    But i guess time will tell......:p


    thx
    malcolm
     
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    you know, any link exchange also work to raise your PR, but Google tends to catch that and devalue your page PR. It's a matter of being caught or not.

    And it's all about percentage also. Sometimes Google let link farms have high PR, but usually they don't last.

    Site-wide links are not recommended but I don't like to say much cuz of competition... do as you feel.

    One more little advice and you can certainly ignore this.

    once you get your site PR5 or higher, its time for you to be "defensive" if you know what I mean.
     
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    "once you get your site PR5 or higher, its time for you to be "defensive" if you know what I mean"

    I agree 100%
     
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    Agreed.... now its a matter off maintaning what youve earned PR5 and
    Making sure its got more links so you cant fall backwords.

    thx
    malcolm
     
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