Chance to ease dependance on foreign oil shot down

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Dec 21, 2005.

  1. #1
    "The U.S. Senate today blocked oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge"

    What the hell? Here is a great opportunity to ease our dependance on terrorist oil and it is rejected?

    Well you can thank another Democrat Fillibuster for this blunder in American history. Morons. Hell this has been going on for 25 years now. It's getting a bit old. Well, I guess there is next year.
     
    Mia, Dec 21, 2005 IP
  2. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    What is it with you Reps and Dems with your left/right fighting? Don't you know both sides are controlled by the same people? Don't you know Hillary Clinton has dinner with Rupert Murdoch every week? Don't you see Bush Senior and Bill Clinton being all buddy buddy with each other?

    Everything you said above is true. BUT, this is beyond just Dems or Republicans. Yes, drilling in the artic would allow America to be less dependent on foreign oil.

    But that is not what "they" want. They want the US to be dependent so they can do what they've always wanted: bring this country down by weakening us.

    A word to everyone in this forum: Get out of your false left right corners and get in the center. Liberals and conservatives are both controlled. Didn't Hillary just get on the news and give support to Bush for the war in Iraq? And didn't Donald Rusmfield have dinner with Henry Kissinger recently?
     
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  3. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Why tap ours when Bush and Co. are getting rich off Iraq's? ;)
     
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    latehorn Guest

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    They access to hundreds of billions oilbarrels in Iraq..
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Let me guess you found no problem with attaching a bill such as this to a defense bill at all :rolleyes:

    Reguardless if we should allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge I find it disgusting someone would attach the bill to the defense bill, taking the chance of unfunding our troops in the name of oil.....
     
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  6. Henny

    Henny Peon

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    I agree MIA, only thing left is to win 5 or so more seats in the 06 elections. The really disgusting thing was the 2 or 3 republicans that voted with the loonie lefties. :mad:
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    WTF? You do realize that Murdoch is a democrat right? And Kissinger is a Republican. Are you sure this is what you wanted to say?
     
    Mia, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    There was no defense bill attached to is when Clinton Vetoed it after it based the House and Senate. This time it failed because of a nut job fillibuster, as usual. The liberal mantra now-a-days seems to be get nothing done, because we can always say we did later when we re-write history.
     
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  9. ROAR

    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    Dont cry about oil/gas when you drive a hummer----zero sympathy---
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I don't drive a Hummer. Your point is?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    You don't need any oil for your bicycle, why do you care? ;)
     
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  12. Henny

    Henny Peon

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    Yes, but my bicycle has tires made form oil, and a seat, and chain lube etc. Oil is more important than just gasoline. The democrats are doing everything they can to slow down this BOOMING economy thanks to the tax cuts
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ain't that the truth...

    Hell even credit cards are made from OIL!
     
    Mia, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  14. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    Booming? I musta missed that report?

    American workers being laid off by the thousands. Gas at record high prices. The biggest trade imbalance in american history. Minimum wage suspended for disaster relief while halibutron takes approximatly 80% rather then pay workers. The president wanting to make illegal immigrant mexicans legal slaves that can work for below minimum wage.

    Yeah, that's booming allright!
     
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  15. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    It's really disgusting that you have no regard for wildlife or the environment. Lets go drill all over Alaska, one of the biggest wildlife sanctuaries left in the world.

    After all, we all know oil never spills and never hurt anything :rolleyes:

    On March 23, 1989,
    Oil tanker Exxon Valdez
    Departed from the Valdez oil terminal in Valdez, Alaska
    30,000,000 GALLONS Spilled over the coast
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    HAHAHAHAH!!!! :D

    That really is funny. Thanks for the good laugh.. booming economy! Hahaha... you forgot to mention how every full time worker now owes over $300,000 to the government to pay off our "little" defecit. You forgot to mention how the average workers hourly wages aren't keeping up with inflation. :rolleyes: You also forgot to mention that Korea has paid for nearly the entire cost of the Iraq war and we now owe them billions and billions of dollars too. We won't even get into the housing collapse thats coming ;)
     
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  17. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    If you want to use that tree hugger bullshit to justify not drilling there, you should also not consume any oil products at all. You can't have it both ways.

    Using it is just as bad, and perhaps worse, as drilling for it.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Your point being? :confused:

    So I take it you support attaching bills to a defense bill giving the chance that the defense bill wont go through and the troops will be underfunded?

    Another case of no argument, so blame Clinton? Hey if you want to Clinton bash lets start a new thread, I'd be more than happy to bash Clinton with you on many areas. I fail to see how this makes attaching an oil bill to a defense bill causing the bill to fail right?

    Excellent point... I'm sure with todays technology the area could be safely drilled with not a huge impact on wild life if we enforced strict guide lines. The only problem at all I personally see with drilling at this time is a thought of keeping what little oil we have for a time when we might need it. Planning for the future when for some reason we might not beable to get oil from the middle east, if we use what little oil we have up such as the small amount available in the Alaska Preserve it could very well make us weaker in the long term, for a very small gain in the short term.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the right attitude to have towards the environment. Have any idea how many species of animals/plants went extinct this year? :rolleyes:

    There have been alternatives to oil for years. Funny how much political power billionaire oil companies and automakers have. But then again, I don't deny how corrupt our politicians are. :cool:
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    I would fully support an alternative to oil, getting either side to take it seriously or the masses is a different story...Americans are to used to oil, the infrastructure for the entire nation, the supply for the entire nation to fully change over at this point in time reguardless of political corruption and or favoritism to oil companies. We are starting to see some slow progress in hybrids and other fuel types, hopefully with any luck the technology/supply/demand will continue to grow to make them a serious alternative.

    Not to forget it would help this nations farmers as well for many of the alternative fuel sources.
     
    GRIM, Dec 22, 2005 IP