CBTrends question.

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. #1
    Now, in CBtrends, I noticed something peculiar (to me).
    [​IMG]
    Now, in this graph of the $ earned/sale for forex tracer, the $earned/sale is at the same value ($62) but the graph seems to be declining.
    Now, I thought when a product gets refunds, the graph declines and the value changes to denote that that many number of sales made only this many dollars.

    So does a declining trend here indicate that the product is receiving a high amount of refunds or is it because the gravity is dropping?.
    Sorry if this is a newb question, but I just needed to know before jumping onto the forex market.

    Thanks all ^^
     
    MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  2. MedicAffiliate

    MedicAffiliate Peon

    Messages:
    355
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #2
    Umm...any takers?.
     
    MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  3. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Banned

    Messages:
    1,507
    Likes Received:
    36
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #3
    your pic doesnt work but I believe you can find out by looking at the info, should put the gravity and a previous gravity trend on there I thought?
     
    wowhaxor, Aug 2, 2008 IP
    MedicAffiliate likes this.
  4. MedicAffiliate

    MedicAffiliate Peon

    Messages:
    355
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  5. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Banned

    Messages:
    1,507
    Likes Received:
    36
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #5
    That graph the way it is would normally indicate either the price has been lowered or refunds are up. However it says $62 all the way down so I think there's some sort of error with the graph. According to those values it should be a straight line. Also possible though is that there is a decline due to increased refunds but the graph is displaying $62 when that value should be changing. I would dismiss this graph, there is definitly something wrong with it.
     
    wowhaxor, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  6. MedicAffiliate

    MedicAffiliate Peon

    Messages:
    355
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #6
    You get points for trying, but that really didn't help :D
     
    MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  7. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

    Messages:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    98
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #7
    Now that I'm a publisher I'm quite sure it's actually a myth that you can get any indication at all of what the refund rate is from looking at these numbers. As far as I can tell CB doesn't lower the $/sale or the gravity for refunds.

    I say this because I haven't made a huge amount of sales with my product - so the refunds we have had - should (in theory) drastically effect the gravity/earned per sale #s. They don't. At all.
     
    Zibblu, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  8. MedicAffiliate

    MedicAffiliate Peon

    Messages:
    355
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #8
    Okay, so I'm right in thinking the fact that forex tracer has had a lot of refunds has nothing to do with the way this graph goes, right?.
    That helped a lot, thanks.
     
    MedicAffiliate, Aug 2, 2008 IP
  9. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

    Messages:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    98
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #9
    I don't know how many refunds ForexTracer gets as it's not my product - what I'm saying is - as far as I can tell you cannot determine the refund % of a CB product by looking at these numbers. The $/sale does *not* drop when a refund is processed nor does the Gravity drop. CB seems to just ignore it as far as those 2 numbers go. I don't know if they consider it when calculating the popularity (which there's no number for, but which the products can be ranked in the marketplace by - I believe popularity is the overall sales made, although as far as I know the actual formula for it has not been released.)

    I don't know where the idea that the earned/sale drops from a refund started - maybe they used to it that way? But they really just don't do that - at least not now.

    I've had some refunds with my product and the earned/sale didn't drop at all. The only time the earned/sale dropped was when I actually made sales at a lower price (when I was testing a lower price point.)
     
    Zibblu, Aug 2, 2008 IP