Capitalism: Good or Evil?

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  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #21
    China is a very ancient and innovate country. There are already overlaps in their economy and society that are recognizable as CapCom and could lead to a recognition of the advanced model that would be fitting for their storied history.
     
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    #22
    Yes China is great . It's the 1st country on my - to nuke list .
     
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  3. Breeze Wood

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    #23

    Any particular reason?

    The history of earth is repression, what in theirs is any different?
     
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    #24
    For me, it's about freedom. Freedom to run my business however I want, so long as the laws of supply and demand create income. Freedom from the government telling me what to produce, how to produce, and and how much to produce. Freedom for the government taking money that I have earned so they can redistribute it to others who have not earned it.

    I want to succeed on my own - not have government support me. And, like many people who are "rich" I do believe in giving to charity - but *I* want to choose where my money goes. I want to give it away - not have the government take it and redistribute it.

    "When citizens fear the government, there is tyranny; when government fears the people, there is liberty" - Thomas Jefferson
     
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  5. ApocalypseXL

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    #25
    If you drop the LSD I'll be more then happy to point you the wonderful things made in PRC .
     
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  6. Breeze Wood

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    #26

    They in fact have combined Capitalism and Communism, you fell threatened by them?

    That is your reason for wanting them destroyed.......
     
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    #27
    Nope , I would love to see the scum that oppresses the Chinese people destroyed because :

    - they are constatnly building nuclear warheads
    - they are brutally murdering innocent people
    - they've murdered and tortured hundreds of million of human beings
    - they are violating every human right their is
    - they are the main cause of global warming
    - they are building more and more weapons of offense even thou they don't have any enemy
    - they are holding the world's economic system hostage by manipulating the rare earth's market
    - they are using their own economic system to destroy the rest of the world's economy
    - they are humiliating and brutalizing over 1.000.000.000 (one billion)people . While allowing just a few to have decent living conditions .
    - they constantly dream of world domination
    - they are the sworn enemies of freedom

    And this list could go on and on and on ...
     
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    #28
    The points you made are not related to Capitalism or Communism, when done ideally mixture Capitalism and Socialism is the best economic system.
     
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    #29
    I've yet to see a free capitalist country do that . And those where reason for the Chinese dictators to vanish in a beautiful light and let the people free .
     
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    #30
    capitalism is not evil,if a common
    man try to different from other and achieving
    his goals.Why we can't stop them by the name
    of government.
     
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    #31
    Indian haiku! :D
     
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    #32
    We've yet to see a free capitalist country.
     
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    #33
    Ayn Rand called capitalism "the unknown ideal".
     
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    #34
    Yes the UK , the US , the Netherlands , Germany or France are all brutal regimes making other poorer . You know what I was talking about . Since you have some free time on your hand I suggest you improve you knowledge of economy :p India doesn't need to vampire money from the West to become a great nation . Th key is internal growth :D
     
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    #35
    No country in the world has unrestricted free market capitalism AND any country racking up a trade surplus (now or in the past) is making others poorer.

    You are making me laugh hard now, which of the countries you mentioned acquired wealth with internal growth? UK? the US? the Netherlands? Germany? or France?

    When you reply this time do your research sorry but your posts on economics reek of ignorance of reality.
     
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    #36
    Ever heard of WWII ? Germany was a pile of rubble after that . So was a large part of France , so was Italy , so was Germany , so was the Netherlands and Belgium . The US lost millions of men to meat grinders and was left whit a war geared economy . The economic might that we still have today was forged trough decades of hard labor , trade treaties and scientific advance .
     
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    #37
    Well... my approach towards this issue is this: theoretically, capitalism is bad. Socialism with a slight capitalist touch is better.
    But capitalism is the only political system that WORKS. Political system do not free-float: they have constraints such as humans and human-nature. Capitalism is consistent with human nature. We are gatherers and we have a biological urge to gather as much property as we possibly can. Socialism and Communism are perfect only in theory, on paper, but they collapse (as history has proven) when trying to be implemented. Simply because they are contrary to human nature.
     
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    #38

    This is not true for everyone and most are able to satisfy their needs without excess consumption. Variations within a market are more naturally related by constraints than the present system of individualism.
     
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    #39
    Amen! That statement is pure win!
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

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    #40
    That reminds me of a great quote from Ronald Reagan, “One definition of an economist is somebody who sees something happen in practice and wonders if it will work in theory.”
     
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