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Cant' find owner of Domain!

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by scott2342, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. #1
    Hey everyone,

    I'm trying to get my .co.uk domain name but unfortunately I'm really struggling. The site currently redirects to another promo site which the company obviously wont give out the information. I think they must just get a small commission from the redirect if someone signs up.

    - I've tried the Whois lookup but only provides me with a vague address and business name. The business shows nothing on google or anywhere, I even searched it on companies house but nothing.

    - The Address is vague it just gives a flat number and a city.... Well there's nothing I can do with that :D I've tried to post to the only flat of that kind in the postcode but received no response. (It was a long shot :D)

    - I've contacted Nominet and also the registrar but there is nothing they can do which is expected. I was hoping that they would make the registrar update their information for an actual legitimate address but doesn't look like it.

    I've literally tried everything I know and have nothing to show for it :/ Does anyone have any advice? Would a Domain broker be able to do more than what I have done myself?

    I don't really want to launch my site without the .co.uk as if it goes well (which hopefully it will) I don't want to leave myself open to a copy cat, scammer or a much larger purchase price in the future.
    SEMrush
    Thanks!
     
    scott2342, Dec 7, 2016 IP
    SEMrush
  2. bae

    bae Active Member

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    What about the whois contact email address or the telephone number? If their contact information isn't correct, Nominet should force them to correct it. That would at least give you a way to contact the owner.

    Nominet Terms and Conditions state:
    3.1.2 give and keep us notified of your correct name, postal address, phone and email contact information.
    This includes responding quickly to any request from us to confirm or correct the information on the
    register;
     
    bae, Dec 9, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    Hmm I'll try emailing Nominet again then. It clearly isn't the correct address and there is no number on there. Thanks!
     
    scott2342, Dec 9, 2016 IP
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    KykySck Peon

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    The registrants should always provide accurate information and should update it if it is necessary. If they fail to do so, the registrar is allowed to cancel the registration, as the so-called "owners" only hold the rights to use that domain for a period.

    I'm sure if you contact Nominet they will do something about it, as ICANN has rules for these situations as well.
     
    KykySck, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    @KykySck Contacted Nominet several times and they don't seem bothered and just said it was up to LCN to keep information correct and up to date. Contacted LCN and told them that information was incorrect and needed updating. They couldn't understand that I didn't own the domain but when they finally did they just told me they would ask the registrant to up date his information but I've heard that all before.
     
    scott2342, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    KykySck Peon

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    Hmm. Then I am not sure what you can do. According to ICANN, the registrar can cancel the registration after 15 days. You could try and get another domain extension, as people are slowly dropping the typical .co.uk or .com ones. There are so many to choose from, really.
     
    KykySck, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    I have the others but as it's a uk based site I would really like the .co.uk extension to stop anyone getting lost etc
     
    scott2342, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I'd go the ICANN route until you get contact details that are actually usable.
     
    sarahk, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    Do you have any advice on the steps that I need to take next?
     
    scott2342, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    It takes time but if you report to ICANN they do get the details updated and they tell you when it's happened so you can check back.
     
    sarahk, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    Ok thanks. I've submitted a form on ICANN so lets see what they come back with :)
     
    scott2342, Dec 14, 2016 IP
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    Maybe they just don't want to respond to you. It really can be that simple.

    It's nothing personal, but they aren't interested in whatever you're pitching.
     
    VacationCrasher, Dec 21, 2016 IP
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    scott2342 Member

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    Well I haven't even been in touch with them so I doubt it's that...
     
    scott2342, Dec 22, 2016 IP
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    You've sent them mail and they didn't respond. That's a pretty good sign they aren't interested in whatever your message said.
     
    VacationCrasher, Dec 22, 2016 IP
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    What? You mean the vague address? The postcode covers a massive area and most likely has tons of flats. The post office most likely didn't deliver it that's why I put "It was a long shot :D", I may as well have just put Flat 4 England...
     
    scott2342, Dec 22, 2016 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Have patience and wait for ICANN to do their magic.

    I assume you've googled for twitter accounts etc.
     
    sarahk, Dec 22, 2016 IP
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    @sarahk Will do! I'm launching the site officially on the 1st of Jan anyway, I'll have to try and acquire the domain at a later date.
     
    scott2342, Dec 24, 2016 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Good luck!

    FWIW have just been through trying to find the owner of a Polish site in 2009. Been am interesting process but unsuccessful.
     
    sarahk, Dec 24, 2016 IP
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    Ahh dam that's a shame. How long do ICANN take once you've contacted them?
     
    scott2342, Dec 25, 2016 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    The icann process is slow but you get email updates.
     
    sarahk, Dec 25, 2016 IP