We all know that the vast majority of jews left or were driven out by the Romans of the land of Israel over TWO THOUSANDS years ago. The vast majority of jews establish their lives around Europe, other parts of the Middle East, and the rest of the World. Now, can the descendents of the jewish people who are NO LONGER connected to the land come after 2 THOUSANDS years and decide to get rid of the current living population???? This is the story of modern-day Israel. I wonder what would happen to the rest of World is this same logic was applied. For example, can the native americans decide to chase all of North America???? Can the aborigenes decide to kick out all the white and non-native australians and new-zealanders??? Can the africans decide to expell all the white south africans???? These are just a few examples. If this logic was applied to the rest of the world, the world as we know it today would cease to exist. By the way, muslims had nothing to do with the fact that the vast majority of jews lost their lands two thousands years ago. Islam was only revealed in the 7th century. David Ben-Gurion (one of Israel founders) told Nahum Goldmann, the president of the World Jewish Congress: If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country . . . We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? To GTECH, ly2 and other muslim haters: Please try to stick with the topic of this thread or don't post at all. Islam and muslims had nothing to do with the fact that the vast majority of jews left their lands over 2 thousands years ago. Islam was only revealed in the 7th century, 600 years AFTER most of jews had left what was then known as the land of Israel. If you want to open another thread to attack muslims and profess your hatred of muslims/Islam, you are very welcomed to do so. I would only ask that you don't pollute my thread with your islamophobia.
Trick question: In over 1400 years of massive conquest by the sword, what lands did islam capture and then later give back to it's original inhabitants? Who knows the answer? Does the OP? The problem in Israel today is, there are still some muslims occupying Israel's land. That little tiny insignificant little sliver of land. That piece of land that is mentioned in the quran as (gasp, say it isn't so, holmes!).....ISRAEL! I submit that the best way to put this behind is, for Saudi Arabia to open up it's country to Jews. A bistro on every corner in Mecca, I say! That would show that islam is truly a "tolerant" religion. The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: "Oh, Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!"
Excellent point GTech! Nobody can give refuge for the Palestenians, remember black September? Jordanians, Egyptians nobody gave them refuge because they themselves despise these people. "I wonder what would happen to the rest of World is this same logic was applied. For example, can the native americans decide to chase all of North America???? Can the aborigenes decide to kick out all the white and non-native australians and new-zealanders??? Can the africans decide to push out all the white south africans????" Is there any possibility of the above quote????? But this is possible: Muslims will soon be kicked out of Europe and America because they wag their tail too much and because they feel all non-believers should convert to Islam or die.
Please try to stick with the topic of this thread. Islam and muslims had nothing to do with the fact that the vast majority of jews left their lands over 2 thousands years ago. Islam was only revealed in the 7th century, 600 years AFTER most of jews had left what was then known as the land of Israel. If you want to open another thread to attack muslims and profess your hatred of muslims/Islam, you are very welcomed to do so. I would only ask that you don't pollute my thread with your islamophobia.
of course all this is down to religion, whether jewish, islamic, or christian. throughout the crusades jerusalem was passed with tedious monotony from one religious group to another. if israelis were not jewish and palestinians not muslim, and the whole area ruled over by a secular government this problem would cease to exist. you might protest that we can't just ask a people to undo thousands of years of religious indoctrination, but i protest that we can, we must, and not just in israel. a secular revolution must happen if this world is ever to experience lasting peace.
Yep, Jews just up and left! islam was invented during the sixth century, not the 14th century. The 14th century was a time of conquest for islam, as were the previous 800 years. Let's review history, for the resident Jewish Charity Fundraiser: http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html That's an awful lot of head chopping to spread peace and tolerance.