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Can you really copy the other articles?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by abientot, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. #1
    I mean, is it really possible that some person copies the article and create the site with the same contest?

    I've heard that some special programs will not index this site, but I know several sites which have the same content.

    Why is it so? What do you do when find YOUR content on "strange" site?
    SEMrush
     
    abientot, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    latoya Active Member

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    It's possible, but it's not legal, when you don't have the original author's permission.

    When I find my content on someone else's site I first send them a cease and desist for them to take the content down. At this point, they person usually complies. If they didn't, I'd take it to their host and have the site shut down. At this point, it's possible for me to sue them for any profits they've made from copying my material.
     
    latoya, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    Latoya is right, if you copy some one's content, they can easily sue you and get your site shut down.
     
    yogesh sarkar, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    cherry_yuya Active Member

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    What do you offer as the proof that you are the original owner?
    I mean which proof is good enough to present to their host?
     
    cherry_yuya, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    anions Notable Member

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    I think the person who posted it earlier might have the rights.
    I wonder how they'd sue and convict someone in India though - here people are let off even for daylight murders...
     
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    Analyst Well-Known Member

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    A little did i know is that the site on which the content is posted earlier is indexed at the top and the duplicate content is not given the preference by top search engines like google. Is'nt it the sufficient proof that you're the original writer?
     
    Analyst, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    nickflame Peon

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    maybe you created original content but because you did not have a good site it was not indexed in google, and someone else, copied your content and because he created a lot of backlinks he got indexed faster than you, so google shows him as the creator.
     
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    Analyst Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the explanation.



    Regards,
     
    Analyst, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    It definitely happens. I just posted about someone ripping an entire site of mine a little while ago (my site is www.ChickTech.net; theirs is chickstech.com). They even made matters worse by associating my name with pornographic advertisements, and having some kind of script that's automatically changing any links within my site to point to their own pages. And since you asked what we'd do about it:

    1. I contacted the site owner a few times demanding its removal.
    2. I contacted the legal department of their registrar / host (happened to both be the same company.
    3. I just printed up the DMCA notice today for the host, and the official copyright complaint for Google to get them removed from their index. They'll both be mailed tomorrow.
    4. I contacted Yahoo's copyright infringement personnel to try to have them de-indexed from their engine as well.
    5. If the host shuts down the site, I may leave it at that.
    6. I may still decide to go after the surrender of their domain name (as they're blatantly using it for the purpose of profiting from illegally-obtained materials - using my trademark and copyrighted content in various areas of the site).
    7. I may also still invoice them for all content at my non-exclusive rate ($.35 / word) as per the terms of use for taking any content from my site. How far I'd take that would depend entirely on how much they've pissed me off.
    8. If I'm particularly pissed off and things aren't progressing, I may end up with no other recourse than to sue for defamation over the porn issue, or suing for any income earned from that site as it was all illegally obtained, and originating from my exclusively-owned work.

    So in other words... there's a lot you can do if someone steals your site or your content.
     
    jhmattern, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    enigmatic9 Peon

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    I hope you nail the miscreant!
    All the best!
     
    enigmatic9, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    Jhmattern good luck with that, more and more people like these need to be sued and put out of business to deliver the point that this sort of stuff cannot be and will not be tolerated.
     
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    anthonyn Well-Known Member

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    I would advise you to be always extra careful when you accept contents from all people who claim that it is original. It is your duty to check the articles by using copysacpe, and other ways to see that the article is not copied. These days everything is possible. Also it is better to choose a couple of writers whom you could trust for article writing.
     
    anthonyn, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    sinigami Peon

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    Let's get the record straight:

    Plagiarisms is defined as using four or more words that are not you're own.

    What your speaking of is self plagiarism. This is the act of using the same material that you created for a different source. In the world of academia, if you did this you will get expelled and possibly arrested. On the internet, it is harder to track but if your in a "sue-able" location then you will get..well...sued. And people will check their copy programs and give you a bad rep.

    If it is like a story or a literary piece, you should ask in advance prior to using.
     
    sinigami, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Umm, I'm not sure where you pulled the "four or more words" bit, but that's not any kind of "rule". You're right in that plagiarism has to involve taking credit for work that's not "your own" (without crediting the source). You can always use quotes and even facts and figures without quotes as long as the source is credited and you're within your fair use rights. Copying an entire article, like the OP is talking about though certainly doesn't satisfy those requirements.

    And for the record, the OP never mentioned taking "their own" articles and rewriting them. They were asking what to do if "some person" were to take the articles to create their own site... big difference from rewriting your own material... and definitely illegal. ;)
     
    jhmattern, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    sinigami Peon

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    The above implies the same meaning. One of my professors said this definition. I think it might be some historical society bylaw, but I am uncertain. And as far as taking stuff from someone else site and re-writing it, all depends on what country you are in.

    In American it is illegal, while in another country it is fine. And even if someone does do that, it is hard to catch because they could just simply change a certain percentage and edit it in such a fashion so its content would be hard to trace. Needless to say, if they are caught then the plagiarizer will be forced to pay unnecessary fines and court costs.
     
    sinigami, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Well look up the definition... it has nothing to do with four words. ;) That might be your professor's definition, or your school's definition, when deciding what constitutes plagiarism when grading papers, and what they find acceptable without citation.

    Anyway you cut it, it's wrong. And in most places, it's illegal. There are even international protections, so it's far from just a US-based protection. :) And in general, there is no legal percentage that you can change in order to claim authorship and any rights to the work (aside from 100%). Fortunately, it's become much easier to trace on the Web, as opposed to offline plagiarism. And even if someone lives in another country, it's not impossible to deal with... you can contact their host, registrar etc. to have the site shut down. You can contact ad networks that they're using to report the problem to try to take away their ability to monetize the content. You can reach out and report it to their private advertisers if you need to... there's always a way to deal with a thief.
     
    jhmattern, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    sinigami Peon

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    Well I know that is it stealing work and passing it off as your own. But international protection still varies in its ability to snipe the plagiarizer. I agree about the later paragraph.

    While this is a slight tangent away from the topic, there is a good site besides copyscape to help nip plagiarizers. For domain plagerizations, one of the best ways to nip domain plagerization is to do it through a site tracker. You can install one for the website and it will monitor the IP address locations of all the traffic that flows into that site.
     
    sinigami, Jun 22, 2007 IP
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    enigmatic9 Peon

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    Thats going to be a lengthy process but you need to protect your intellectual property at all costs!
     
    enigmatic9, Jun 22, 2007 IP