Can US wins the war with Iran?

because that would be the simple, logical thing to do.

 

It is obvious some people do not really even think about what they say. Who would we nuke? The country we are trying to liberate? Iraq is predominately Islamic, and it should be ruled by its people. Other factions both inside the country and outside have interest in ruling there by terror. The problem is there is no real place that is the enemys. The enemy is a large number of individuals in and among the ordinary populace both in Iraq and the rest of the world. Iraq is merely one focal point in this conflict.
Nuke any thing and you only kill the innocent people that live there. The ones who are just like all other people, trying to make a living, caring for their families and futures of their children.

 

America has already lost moral war. World will not support america, i think now american dont want any more war.

 

I do not advocate the use of nuclear weapons. Or the invasion of foreign nations. But notice the world is not being ruled by Japan. Which it may very well have been, had that bomb not went off. It worked. Stopped a plan of world domination dead in its tracks. But it was at the cost of tens of thousands of innocent Japanese women and children who probably didn't want there to be a war either. Its not the people that want these wars. It is the big guys at the top. The ones who have interest in power, conquest , oil, domination. And when the big guys control the media and airwaves then they pretty much can guide the opinions and ideologies of their peoples. We are used as pawns in the actualization of the selfish dreams of those in power.

 

Thanks. I knew that when I posted...

Well you seemed to imply that American nuking was called for because you know, Pearl Harbour got pretty ugly.

Yeah, but who decides who lives and who dies? If I told you that you had to take a bullet to save 10 strangers in another country, would that fly?

If you're going to teach lessons with nukes, kill them all. Because whoever is leftover will hate you forever.

 

In Japan's case, they did. When they attacked Pearl Harbor.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Japan is a great ally today. I suspect they will not be attacking us again anytime soon.

 

lets see usa go bully china

 

China is slowly shaping up in the right direction, making forced change unnecessary.

However, the military capabilities of the U.S. far exceed those of the red Chinese. If it were necessary to do so, we could remove the current red Chinese regime by force.

 

Seems we we all rout for our teams.
Tend to think in terms of us and them.
Such natural mechanisms often dull our perception of the truth.
Whatever the hell that is..

 

Living earth are u high? The japanese were well on their way to losing the war.
The bomb was dropped to end the war quickly and save american lives. Totally different situation then here. If we drop a bomb on iran now millions of innocent iranians will also be killed and the whole world would end up hating us and would probably combine to go against us. Then the terrorists will truely have won. You rnuts if u think that bombing a whole country will get rid of alqaida since iran is mostly shiite anyways.

 

Will Spencer you are correct on that assessment but like i said before, do you think the whole world would sit by and watch that happen? Do you then think we can win a war against the whole world. It will be wishfull thinking because that would be the start of ww3. Russian will then point its nukes towards us( the innocent american masses), the chinese will also launch nukes into japan and south korea. Any invasion of japan will also have to deal with north korea and i heard that north korea has the most sofisticated air defense system in the world(maybe even better than ours according to my former air force buddy who has read up on them)

 

The US can win a war with Iran, if the USA just went into Iran mashed the place up then went home. If it turn out to be another Iraq then no they can't win because it's a hard battle. It may be nice to help Iran afterwards, it may also be nice to rebuild but some won't appreciate it & will class it as occupation & some Americans won't have the will to stay.

 

Also with the way the chinese economy and military is growing china doesnt need to make any bold moves anywhere. It is sitting there , waiting and biding
their time cause within 2o to 25 years they will either be our equals or surpass us. There will then be a 2 super power world again. I dont know whether this is good or bad for us right now.

 

Toopac, very unrealistic view of the iranian situation. An invasion there will open up a few pandoras boxes. The united nations would first either disband or boot us and isreal out(very bad). Second all countries would combine against us if this invasion isnt sanctioned by the world. Can u imagine russia and china combining forces? People, we have to take the john wayne hats off and be realistic here. I WANT TO LIVE!!!!

 

United States might have some military power to go Iran and win a war (just like they won in Iraq in the first couple months - if you call that victory) .... but

1- Iran is not Iraq, people are much more United and even though they don't like their government they will unite with it in case of war (and therefore only makes the religious government stronger).

2- Iran has allies in the world (unlike Iraq) that can make life hell for Americans and Jews around the world (mainly Hizbollah and Iraqi Shias, Syria and more). Pay attention that I am assuming that Russia and China (technically Iran's war allies) are gonna back down and not fulfill their promises.

3- U.S can't afford to get into more debt.

4- A war in Iran would only add Iran to front line extremist. Right now they are keeping their capabilities and exercise it every now and then. In case of attack hey will explode all around the world..

5- Oil prices will sky rocket

6- Just bombing Iran wouldn't work and U.S doesn't have enough troops to send to Iran (which probably over 500,000 troops will be needed)

 

100% agreed , nice post Nima

 

The American Jihad ... or The War on Terror continues.

 

You are correct on points 1, 2, and 5. You are incorrect on point 3. You are partially incorrect on points 4 and 6.

All of these lead to one simple conclusion: A nuclear attack on Iran may be the best/cheapest/safest mechanism for preventing a nuclear attack from Iran.

 

i was reading your posts, its hard to see many US ppl are supporting for a war and even nuclear war. yes i can understand your feelings the war is not in your soil so it doesn't make any problems for you, no need to run for your life and no need to hide in bunkers for living with little food , if you caught any disease no medical attention and eventually a slow death. just turn on the TV and watch your soldiers firing, and get a live telecast and say oh! how he missed that shot it should be more accurate! and say if i was there .............
can i ask you ask you guys a question , how do you feel your neighbour is caring much on your house problems or your family problems? i really hate that i don't know about you. thats the same feeling a ppl feel when your country is interfering with everyones problem. iran is thousand's of kilometer from your country and don't even have a missle that long to target your country, so you think they are a threat coz they point there ak47 from there and aim ppl in USA! , or it may be another reason after 100 years iran will overpower us so we destroy them now for safeguard. its another nation respect them. if you don't like to respect no problems , just keep out from there internal problems.

i read a post on pearl harbour, and an argue that US did a nuke coz japan did attack on pearl harbour, can i ask you how do you like there is a russian army base near to your country do you attack? ofcourse yes, if they can't hold and they failed its their fault , ie it was your millitary fault for that big loss than japan's victory. also its not a big reason for a nuke japan. japan didn't send a 250 planes to your country and didn't kill any civilians, they attacked your army and destroyed your army base , what you did a put a bomb in city instead of an army base, droping a nuke in japan army base was enough to stop war, or droping a single bomb was enough why you guys dropped two? testing how many ppl get kills on a bomb , oh! first didn't get a numbers we expected ? so we can drop another one little more closer to get it more! so it was not for stoping war it was just testing, that test was like make a queue of 100s of ppl and take a gun and shot them to test that gun is ok!

the real threat to the world is US policies ( i am not saying US ppl, hope you make in right sense) , in 1970s and 80 you are in need of a problem for making a war. and you got it - communism , media propogated communism is the threat to the world , we should war all communist nations., so got a reason to attack vietnam and many small countries. still testing your weapons, i saw a post arguing like ' if we decided we may nuke vietnam' , as i stated earlier you already tested nuclear weapons , so decided to test some newly developed chemical weapons , you did it perfectly. after russias fall you was searching for some another problem that affect world, and you got it terrorism and still war on it is continuing....
keep searching, keep finding problems and keep doing war, and keep world neat and clean !

if you didn't find any problems try google.com

 

Stupidest post I have seen on DP for months.