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Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by MisterZee, Oct 11, 2005.

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    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=32586 is a worrisome thread. Can the next generation worm be one that goes out surfing sites with spoofed IPs or even the infected computer's IP and clicking adsense ads?

    I don't see how Google can stop something like this. It could kill adsense AND adwords dead.

    Am I wrong?

    Hey, MS could do it on the sly to adsense just to mess with the only real income of a serious future competitor.

    Am I making too big a deal of this, or is it contextual advertising future scourge?
     
    MisterZee, Oct 11, 2005 IP
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    iskandar Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, you're making too big a deal of this
     
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  3. MisterZee

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    How would Google defend against viruses used as click fraud? When "I love you" turns into "I click every Google Ad I can find", would you still use adwords?
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    It doesnt seem a problem right now. But who knows....someday someone may be able to make a virus like tht...... which spreads itself from one computer to another and generates clicks on all of them..... scary thought.
     
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    This could be a problem if Google doesnt take care of it, but i think its not a very big deal for now..
     
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    I'm sure they will be able to implement some code of some kind to deal with it.
     
    hajamie, Oct 12, 2005 IP
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    I'm starting a sort of long term plan with the money I get from AdSense, something like depositing it into unit trust and stuff. So I hope Google does not cancel this wonderful advertising programme.

    Nonetheless, it takes *a lot* for a big company like Google to revoke an advertising programme like this. It's not impossible though, judging on what happen to MSN's ads recently.
     
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  8. sachin410

    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    A wise thought.

    Things change fast on the internet. Sometimes one doesnt even get a time to react. I too am going to save as much as I can.
     
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  9. MisterZee

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    I must have missed some news, what happened?
     
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    I'm sure Google will have ample security measures implemented. I doubt that they will let their main income generation method be jeopordized in any way.
     
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  11. MisterZee

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    I hear you, but I don't see how they can counter it if it becomes popular. Look at how well the technology companies have handled spam. My penis is bigger than the empire state building after all those enhancers I'm emailed every day.
     
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    The fact is, we have no idea how Google detects click-fraud. Their methods might be sufficiently complex to be virtually un-foolable.
     
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    It is extremely likely that a virii clicking on ads would leave a very detectable pattern not only on a paticular site but across the net.
     
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    I think the virus writer could easily make no detectable pattern. Take over the browser. Every time a user visits a site, 10% chance that it will click an ad. If it does click an ad, it chooses one at random.

    I think you're overestimating Google's ability to detect patterns.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    I read in another thread that Google has fixed this problem on Monday.
     
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    The virus doesn't just have to be random, it has to mimic normal behavior.

    It is unlikely the virus writer has the necessary information to do that. So even in its randomness it would likely be detectable because it would be abnormal.
     
    aeiouy, Oct 13, 2005 IP
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    Yes

    The amount of paranoi is amazing. Google uses human review as a second line and if their was such a virus (that wasn't targeted at one person which is no different then a human trying to get them banned) it would be taken into account.

    They could detect it once it spread (if that was the case) so I would concentrate on your CTR instead of science fiction.
     
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    Human review of millions of clicks? And you say I'm believing in science fiction heh. :)
     
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    I wonder what is the total number of clicks that Google gets everyday ..just a thought!
     
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    Should be possible to guesstimate it if you go over their quarterly report carefully, analyze the public data on keywords and traffic. But you'd probably have to factor in a fudge factor of several hundred percent.
     
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