Can someone explain the "sandbox" thing??

Hi Folks,

Is being in the sandbox means that your site is not index, or your site is not being ranked high?.

Thanks

 

Shortly Sandbox means:

Site new + competive and visited keywords = Very low rankings

To see if a site is sandboxed, you must search for allinanchor:keyword. If there's a big difference between allinanchor search en keyword search, then is sure it's a Sandbox. But you can do is to search for more information, because all have been said already about Sandbox, even patents about that.

 

Thanks Davilac,

So if I have competitive Keywords ranked low, but none competitive keywords ranked high, does this mean I am in the sandbox??

 

Surely, the best you can do is to search for allinanchor, if the diference is higher than 100 is a Sandbox 100% sure.

 

Another symptom of sandboxing is when your site ranks high in Yahoo and MSN but not in Google for particular search terms.

 

I would agree with explorer. Our New site ranks well in yahoo and MSN now., but still found in the 200Th position for an Important keyprahse.

 

allinanchor:keyword if i searched this ways my site is on top humm in second page

but when i try to searched via directly keyword i am not in first coule of pages.. why

 

as i know sandbox is like a filter for new websites.
if your site is new, it'll be temporarily put into the sandbox and most probably you'll get delayed for your site's inclusion within the SERPs.
being sandbox means that google is paying attention to your site.

 

My site is ranked quite high (shows up on 1st page), but the PageRank in my Google toolbar shows zero. Doing a link: search also shows only 1 result. Is my site still in the sandbox?

 

No, it's not in the sandbox.

"Sandbox" refers to SERPS, not to PR.

If your site is performing well in Google's SERPS, it is not sandboxed.

The fact that your site is on the first page of a search but has only a small number of inbound links and a PR of zero would suggest that the search term you are ranking for is not very competitive.

 

Sandbox is a probationary period, where your efforts on linkbuilding won't show in SERPS. This can happen to even moderately competitive keywords. This does not affect PR.

The links you aquired are not counted in ranking algorithm. Once your site/links are stable for 3-4 months, google will count these links for ranking. And thus you will be out of sandbox.

On other hand PR will be there since its just the mathematical representaion of how many links pointing to your site. For PR all links are counted, even when you are in sandbox.

hth

 

Hi Explorer, strangely, sites below mine in the search results have a higher PageRank (based on my Google Toolbar).

 

Hi Tuning, does that mean that even though Google internally has a PR for my site, the PR value won't show up in my Google Toolbar simply because I'm still in the sandbox?

 

adnewbie,

Sandbox & PR are different entirely. Sandbox is reffered to the time where your efforts are _not_ helping in SERPS. ( SERPS _only_ not for PR ).

This means your link building efforts are still counted for PR. [ Remember public (toobar) PR updates only in every 100 days ]

hth

PS: Sorry my english sucks!

 

Ah... now I get it. The reason why I'm seeing zero PR on the toolbar is simply because it's not updated yet. It's updated once every 100 days (and I'm not sure how many more days are there to go...)

Thanks.

 

100 is just an approximate number, You can see the history of PR update here.

Regards,
Tuning

 

Great link! I've bookmarked it. Thanks.

 

A question that's always in debate. Google never admits there is really a "Sandbox" which exists, these are just theories of SEO Specialists who try to cover up their poor SEO practice..hehe coz' they can't be on the top ranking of competitive words thats why Sandbox exists in their toughts.

I have a site that never experience "the Sandbox", it does'nt really exists for me anyways. It is just a form of how Google Categorizes sites based on its age and its relevance from its inbound links. The so called "SandBox" exists for you guys because when Google updates it sorts the links your related and once it updated again Google sometimes get confused because of the irrelevant link that's why you dont show up in the SERPS high. This can be avoided by having really relevant link and inbound links that are good. For me Sandbox dont exists unless Google admits it to me..

 

What do you guyes mean buy optimizing your keywords?
Thanks,

 

Keyword optimization is actually an art of choosing for the correct keywords.