can ranking be increased through paid services

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by vinodka, Nov 9, 2007.

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    Some sites promise that for a payment they will optimise our website so that we could get higher ranking in most of search engines, including google. Has anybody any experience of this, and if so whether it was fruitful? Do you recommend this and whether this is not against google terms of reference.
     
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  2. Chewyshoe

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    You really need to get them to specify what a higher ranking means, a higher ranking for payday loans or mortgage application means something where as a higher ranking for xjchgjfhgjdfhjgfjjgkfdf doesn't mean much at all. (Unless xjchgjfhgjdfhjgfjjgkfdf turns out to be some type of cure for fat people, in which case you are golden.)

    You are probably best of learning a bit more about SEO (some great free SEO books out there) before paying for SEO services. That way you know what to expect and what to look out for when being ripped off.

    If they can get higher rankings for something you want to rank for, then it's really up to you to decide how much that's worth. Just make sure you are aware of any monthly fees and what not, not everything is permnament in SEO.
     
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  3. vinodka

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    Thanks for your reply. I may also add here that they perhaps need keywords also to be specified for which we need higher ranking. This way, we can get higher ranking with reference to the subject of our website. Secondly, if at all we get higher ranked and are able to get traffic to our website by this way, can it be treated as against google terms. In my opinion, it should not. What is your opinion.
     
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  4. FreeTraffic

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    Only those sites which are using natural way to get one way inbound links.
     
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    aira Active Member

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    there's no guarantee that you'll be successful on such paid services. Then you should do site analysis and look for good keywords for your site.

    That's what SEO is all about...and it's NOT against the guidelines.
     
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    Yep that is spot on, you need to tell the SEO's what keywords you want to rank for. (In reality, a good SEO should be able to find heaps more keywords which are useful for your site also.)

    It's not against the google TOS to optimize for relevant traffic, that's what they want. What they don't want you to do is rank for spam/irrelevant content.

    So keep the quality of the content up and you will be sweet.
     
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    be careful, if its a good SEO firm they should hv the ability to optimize any keyword. But i advice you should learn it on your own and do it on your own and you will be successful. It may take time but its all worth the time
     
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    1) it's called SEO ) Search Engine Optimization)
    2) it's fruitful cuz it'll offer you the highest ROI over period of time
    3) it's NOT against google TOS

    take your time...get quotes from 5-6 companies...bombard them with questions....here's a list of good questions to anyone who wants to optimize your site :

    1. How long have you been providing search engine optimization services?

    2. Are you an individual consultant or are you part of a team?

    3. How long have you and your team been online?

    4. what types of websites will you not promote?

    5. Do you participate and/or, are you a moderator for any of the seo - Search Engine Optimization / SEM - Search Engine Marketing Forums? If so, what is your username and can you provide links to your most recent or notable discussions?

    6. Can you describe and/or produce recent successful campaign results? If so, can I use those clients for references?

    7. Do you have website design experience? Technical background? what types of programming environments are you experienced with?

    8. what are your opinions in regards to Best Practices for the seo - Search Engine Optimization / SEM - Search Engine Marketing industry? How does a company effectively compete online using traditional optimization strategies?

    9. Can you assure us that the optimization strategies and methods that you are utilizing fall under the criteria of Best Practices for the seo/SEM Industry? Can we assume that this means no penalties for our website? Penalties could include, but are not limited to; removal from the search engines or directories index, or a possible Google PageRankâ„¢ penalty, also referred to as PR0.

    10. How many search engine optimization campaigns have you been involved with? what was your role for those projects? How many are still active? How many are inactive? If inactive, why?

    11. Are there any guarantees for top search engine positions? The answer to this question will depend on whether or not you choose a PPC - Pay Per Click program from Overture, or similar bid management campaign like Google's CPC - Cost Per Click program. Depending on the competitiveness of your industry, guaranteed #1 search engine positions may be difficult and expensive to maintain.

    12. Do you have experience managing PPC - Pay Per Click, CPC - Cost Per Click, and other bid management campaigns? what types of programs do you use for PPC bid management?

    13. what is link popularity? what linking strategies would you use to increase link popularity for our website? Is this service part of the proposed price? what types of websites will you target for link exchange?

    14. what is Google PageRankâ„¢ and how does it affect our website(s)? How would you address improving our PageRankâ„¢ with Google, and other search engines that calculate the number of quality inbound links to our website?

    15. what changes can we expect you to make to our website to improve our positioning in the search engines? Will these changes be visible? Will there be changes in the coding of our website?

    16. what type of reporting (website log analysis) will you provide to us? How often will you provide those reports? Will you provide consultation on how to interpret the reports so that we have a basic understanding of the statistics?

    17. Do you offer ROI (Return On Investment) analysis? Is this in addition to your contract pricing? Have the consultant explain the process of how the ROI will be determined. This type of ROI tracking may require strict participation by the employees of your company. You may need to address internal procedures first, before being able to successfully track ROI for your website.

    Best Luck !
     
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    If they will do it manually for you then there is no problem...
     
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    Well said abilitydesigns, i can add one more point

    18. Ask for a testimonial and the website owners address and phone, through which u can be sure about his projects:)
     
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