Can I Ban IP ?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by jhnrang, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. #1
    Of late - I have been getting lots of automated submission on my niche directories.

    I often see that - my niche Health Directory is receiving - Reciprocal submissions from datarecovery sites:mad:

    I immediately BAN the domain. But what if I BAN the IP too?

    Will the ban be effective for all users who is using the ISP?

    Today - I received submissions - from IP - 122.163.**.**

    With help from Self Seo - I discovered that the IP is located in Australia - and is used by one Indian ISP - airtelbroadband.in. So definitely the submitter is from India - and using Airtel Broadband Service.

    If I BAN that particular IP - will it restrict access to those users who has same IP upto C class?

    Please help. I'll definitely BAN the IP is it only restrict that exact IP.:mad:
     
    jhnrang, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  2. kmap

    kmap Well-Known Member

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    all of them or someone is using dynamic IP unless you ban the whole range you will not able to tackle the situtation

    If you ban all IP's in range then you may loose some genuine users in that range

    Regards

    Alex
     
    kmap, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  3. REALLY Made IN Canada

    REALLY Made IN Canada Peon

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    Do you have a "captcha" on your submissions page? If you don't this can slow down automated submissions.

    Banning IPs is technically easy, but from a business standpoint not so clean and simple.

    If the abusing visitor is spoofing their IP address, then they can keep changing it to overcome any blocks.

    Blocking out shared IPs can close down access by legitimate visitors.

    If the IP seems "real" and the originating country is not desireable as a visitor, you might consider firewalling the whole region. Sometimes, we keep our sites open to certain areas of the world, but at a net loss, when we factor in abuse from those regions.
     
    REALLY Made IN Canada, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  4. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    yes you can in phpld paid script
     
    MeetHere, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  5. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    When i ban an IP, i understand that it may affect others sharing that server, but the likelyhood that another customer on that server will use your directory is low, so hopefully no one shall really be affected by the ignorance of the submitter.

    I think when people consider banning IP's to block a country or regoin, if thats even possible, that its silly and ignorant, but in the above example, its not going to really affect anyone other than the spammer.
     
    pipes, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  6. jitendraag

    jitendraag Notable Member

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    I don't ban IP addresses. However, I would definitely ban the domain and probably also delete 'all submissions' from that IP on that day. I also include this notice in my rejection email so that webmasters know if they are using a rogue directory submitter/software :)
     
    jitendraag, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    I usually mass-delete the listings, not a big deal. I tried banning the domain feature but it does not seem to work well.
     
    Ibn Juferi, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  8. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    This guy seems to be using same IP/Static - 122.162.67.57 :mad: That is the IP of the SPAMMER. Hi submitted domain is - "p-dd.us"

    I do have captcha - on most directories - but it seems -they can still pass through.

    That is my concern also.

    I do use Paid PhpLD script - V3.3.:(
     
    jhnrang, Mar 17, 2009 IP
  9. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    you don't find ban ip button in the approve page ?
     
    MeetHere, Mar 17, 2009 IP
  10. joebert

    joebert Well-Known Member

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    Ban the range, instead of a simple 403 forbidden response return a nice message explaining the situation and leave contact information anyone banned in error to submit through.

    Unban the range after a month or two when they may have moved to a new range and see what happens.
     
    joebert, Mar 17, 2009 IP
  11. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Yes - I can see the IP button and I can BAN the IP. I am just wondering if it will hamper the whole range or I can use that particular IP.:(

    Thanks for yur advise. I'll try to look into your suggestion.:)
     
    jhnrang, Mar 17, 2009 IP
  12. euhlir

    euhlir Peon

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    I don't know of any such way because these automaters usually have dynamic ip and changers so it would be near impossible and not worth the trouble prob.
     
    euhlir, Mar 17, 2009 IP
  13. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    One of my wild thinking -

    Just "IF--if" - the so called SEO service company (SPAMMER) is a member of DP and by chance - if the owners of these sites along with others see this thread -

    They know that I just banned these domains from my diectory --:mad:
    (While I feel for the owners of the sites - I also think they should first do some research on techniques/methods used by companies they hire for marketing their sites):(

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    jhnrang, Mar 19, 2009 IP
  14. hydercanadian1986

    hydercanadian1986 Banned

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    #14
    Yes you can ban ip but some poster using proxies:(
     
    hydercanadian1986, Mar 20, 2009 IP