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Can high PR domain rank low on Alexa?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by chah91, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. #1
    Hi
    I just have a quick question for the domain experts out there~
    I read somewhere that when you value a domain, you generally look at Pagerank and Alexa (since alexa reflexs traffics and backlinks, etc??)
    I've been browsing through a lot of domains lately and found some domains with high Pagerank (PR 6~8) but low Alexa rank (~25 million)
    Is this possible?? or could it be that the Pagerank is fake?
    I've checked the backlinks to these domains using SEO SpyGlass and these domains seem to have legitimate backlinks...
    I'm so confused~ Can someone answer this for me??
     
    chah91, Apr 8, 2012 IP
  2. filegrasper

    filegrasper Active Member

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    Page rank is considered using backlinks where as alexa is consider using traffic. So both are independent.
     
    filegrasper, Apr 8, 2012 IP
  3. chah91

    chah91 Greenhorn

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    But shouldn't those backlinks bring high traffic to the site if they are relevant and useful?? and thus, if does backlinks aren't fake and useless, shouldn't high PR domains = high Alexa rank?
     
    chah91, Apr 8, 2012 IP
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    filegrasper Active Member

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    All backlinks wont give you traffic. Some may. There are many site with high alexa rank like 900 but with PR3.
     
    filegrasper, Apr 8, 2012 IP
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    imraaanz Greenhorn

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    ok, isn't it that google do give importance to alexa rank of a website as well ? i think, as website ranks better in alexa, it always remain top on google ?
     
    imraaanz, Apr 9, 2012 IP
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    JerrickYeoh Active Member

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    Yeah . They identify Ranking in different way .
    Alexa ranking doesn't mean much while PR is much much more important .
    PR is base on how quality your site is and how related your site is to your domain name.
     
    JerrickYeoh, Apr 9, 2012 IP
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    starinfranet10 Peon

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    alexa ranking depend on your website traffic if u want rank on alexa then u need to increase your website traffic....
     
    starinfranet10, Apr 30, 2012 IP
  8. Hayle

    Hayle Peon

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    PR rank does correlate with traffic most of the time. It's mainly the quality of how viral your website is, so yeah.
     
    Hayle, May 1, 2012 IP
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    r.arifur Greenhorn

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    Yes they can be different. If you site has quality backlinks your site will have a healthy PR. Alexa ranking depends on the amount of traffic your site receives. You should remember alexa is not always right, the way the measure and rank sites. They measure traffic by tracking user who uses their toolbar and uses that data to measure a global traffic that the site might get. So you see it not that accurate because how many people you know uses Alexa Toolbar?
     
    r.arifur, May 2, 2012 IP
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    Jane Eyre Peon

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    Alexa can't even measure my backlinks. Google shows 10x as many.
     
    Jane Eyre, May 5, 2012 IP
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    pradip200 Active Member

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    Alexa is a complete tool for backlinks and traffic report
     
    pradip200, May 11, 2012 IP
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    Cashwave Greenhorn

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    Well it can be, but usually high pr sites are ranking high on alexa :)
     
    Cashwave, May 12, 2012 IP
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    oandw Peon

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    The ALEXA has nothing to do with the PR. They are separate. I confused this at first, but you can have a site with VERY high PR that it's the millions in it's ALEXA.

    Hope that helps

    -Omar
     
    oandw, May 15, 2012 IP
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    Almagie Member

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    Conclusion:Alexa and Google are two concepts diferent
     
    Almagie, May 16, 2012 IP
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    pearlgurl Well-Known Member

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    Alexa assess the traffic of the websites. It has nothing to do with PR.
     
    pearlgurl, May 17, 2012 IP
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    Yes They both stand totally opposite
    Google pr is given to a website according to its backlinks
    while alexa rank is given according to traffic
     
    cutesathya, May 17, 2012 IP
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    josep88 Greenhorn

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    yes the traffic is low but the importance is the high pr on search engine for
    better performance of website.
     
    josep88, May 17, 2012 IP
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    NetStar Notable Member

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    Honestly PageRank and Alexa Rank generally shouldn't play a huge role in valuing your online business. Gross Profit/Overhead/ROI is far more important. I have PR5 web sites receiving less traffic than a PR1.
     
    NetStar, May 20, 2012 IP
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    That's definitely a misconception.

    As the various Google updates have shown, Pagerank can change overnight. But that's not really the point. Domain names regularly sell for $xx,xxx - $x,xxx,xxx for reasons that have little to do with preexisting PR or Alexa ratings. None of my own domain sales (which are mostly in the $xxx and $xxxx range) has EVER been based on either Alexa or page rank.

    Generally, I would say that the people who buy domains are interested in (1) brand value and (2) traffic POTENTIAL. And a parked domain with negligible page rank can still have enormous traffic potential as a developed website once it ranks #1 in the search engines.

    Remember, not all page rank is created equal. Would you rather rank #1 for the search "striped cats with goggles" or #3 for the search "cats"?

    As for backlinks, my understanding is that Google will actually penalize a site if it has many backlinks of poor quality. Just because a link exists does not mean that it is relevant or that it will be traversed.

    I frankly admit that Alexa and SEO SpyGlass are not tools I work with much. They're undoubtedly important for existing websites and SEO. But they simply haven't been relevant for my own domain sales, which come down to brand quality and traffic potential. And the domain specialists I discuss things with seldom focus on existing page rank and Alexa ratings. If anything, those are signs of how successful the PREVIOUS website was at that domain -- not the next website. And it's the NEXT website that the domain buyer cares about.

    Sure, good PR and Alexa ratings would be nice for a parked domain. But that's the icing on the cake ... and not the cake.
     
    ImageAuthors, Jun 1, 2012 IP
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    That's definitely a misconception.

    As the various Google updates have shown, Pagerank can change overnight. But that's not really the point. Domain names regularly sell for $xx,xxx - $x,xxx,xxx for reasons that have little to do with preexisting PR or Alexa ratings. None of my own domain sales (which are mostly in the $xxx and $xxxx range) has EVER been based on either Alexa or page rank.

    Generally, I would say that the people who buy domains are interested in (1) brand value and (2) traffic POTENTIAL. And a parked domain with negligible page rank can still have enormous traffic potential as a developed website once it ranks #1 in the search engines.

    Remember, not all page rank is created equal. Would you rather rank #1 for the search "striped cats with goggles" or #3 for the search "cats"?

    As for backlinks, my understanding is that Google will actually penalize a site if it has many backlinks of poor quality. Just because a link exists does not mean that it is relevant or that it will be traversed.

    I frankly admit that Alexa and SEO SpyGlass are not tools I work with much. They're undoubtedly important for existing websites and SEO. But they simply haven't been relevant for my own domain sales, which come down to brand quality and traffic potential. And the domain specialists I discuss things with seldom focus on existing page rank and Alexa ratings. If anything, those are signs of how successful the PREVIOUS website was at that domain -- not the next website. And it's the NEXT website that the domain buyer cares about.
     
    ImageAuthors, Jun 1, 2012 IP