Can Google Follow this link?

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  2. steveb

    steveb Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it can, as long as the link isn't redirected.
     
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    GULLIVER Well-Known Member

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    It is redirected.

    Sorry guys I thought you may be aware of Clickbank's techinques.

    It actually redirects to

    www.serviceprovidingsite.tld/?hop=youraffiliatename

    So can Google or can not?
     
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    steveb Well-Known Member

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    No, it won't count as a backlink.

    Google sometimes will count 301 redirected links, but in this case, it's not.
     
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    GULLIVER Well-Known Member

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    But I see him counting! At least following those links. My assumption is exactly as yours, but what i see is really strange.

    what if, inside the link there is the actual site name like actualsitename.com ?

    http://affiliateprogramid.affiliateprogramname(actualsitename.com).hop.clickbank.net/?xsite=something
     
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    What stats are you looking at? It may follow the link, but it won't count towards PR juice.
     
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    It all depends on how the link is redirected. Specifically, it depends on the http header information that every crawler/spider reads.

    To see what a crawler sees go to this site: http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html

    You can enter one of my websites to see what happens. The site is http://www.consensor.com. When you look at the results, you will see that the header info reports a 301 redirect (permanently moved) to www.comtec-ars.com. Then it provides info on the default page at www.comtec-ars.com.

    Then try your link. Googlebot will follow the trail as easily as the Rex Swain tool follows it.

    As for PR (if that's your real question) the answer is "no one knows". Others may act like they know, but they do not. If there are no "nofollows" along the road then PR *may* pass. G's rules regarding "related content" then kick in. If the content is related and there are no nofollows and the crawler follows header directives, then PR would most likely pass. However, that's a lot of "Ifs".

    /*tom*/
     
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    steveb Well-Known Member

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    Not completely true. Just because it's a 301, doesn't mean it'll count for sure. According to Matt Cutts, 301 redirects may or may not count towards PR juice.
     
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    I didn't realise. I guess it depends on relevance and how many 301 loops it goes through. 301 redirects on your own site certainly count.
     
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    I was not sure if it does, but after reading some of the comments here, I got more interested in this topic, will search on the net and get back to you
     
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    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    I guess not.
    I never saw backlinks from a dynamically redirected page gets indexed.
     
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    OK, guys. Thanks for replies.

    So it's a 301 redirect and I really don't care about PR. If you see this is for affiliate sites and its incoming links. It turns out that such links can hurt you a lot, IF google understands them, follows them, as most of the affiliates don't care where they put your link - including bad, spam and banned sites.

    So if everyone agrees that in case of 301 redirect google follows those links let's see the next point.

    Is there anything that is possible to do to avoid these links. I mean with this type of linking I automatically end up in a bad neibourhood.

    Ideas?
     
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    Have the affiliate program point them to a landing page that is blocked on your robots.txt, not on your sitemap and has "noindex,nofollow". That's all I can think of.
     
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    Can't! it's through Clickbank

     
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    You're buying traffic from clickbank? Surely you can control the landing page?
     
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    #17
    yes google follow this link but now count in backlinks
     
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    #18
    that's an affiliate link. why not use landing page?
     
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    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    You can't resist it since clickbank do not server ads using javascripts. They use normal html.
     
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    Hi,guys I get:The target url was invalid. Please contact the publisher to get it fixed.
    ...You change it ?
     
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