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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Valley, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #41
    because of 9/11
    SEMrush
     
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  2. new

    new Peon

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    #42
    so you are there for revenge

    and what would happen if all those innocents that you have murdered in Afghanistan in past 8 years also want to take revenge?
    do you see any end to this?
     
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  3. Valley

    Valley Peon

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    #43
    Im
    Why do you think we are in Afghanistan?
    As we saw on those videos we have been interested in it for a lng long time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company#Opium_trade
     
    Valley, Oct 4, 2009 IP
  4. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #44
    QFT, the Taliban had essentially stopped the opium tradd in Afghanistan. We can't have that. Drugs need to be made illegal so that governments can run drugs and continue their profitable war on drugs. It's great practice for their police states.

    In 1996 Gary Webb wrote a series of articles published in the San Jose Mercury News, which investigated Nicaraguans linked to the CIA-backed Contras who had allegedly smuggled cocaine into the U.S. which was then distributed as crack cocaine into Los Angeles and funneled profits to the Contras. According to Webb, the CIA was aware of the cocaine transactions and the large shipments of drugs into the U.S. by the Contra personnel and directly aided drug dealers to raise money for the Contras. On December 10, 2004, he was found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head.[7] Sacramento County coroner Robert Lyons determined that it was suicide.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking

    Crashed jet carrying cocaine linked to CIA

    http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3745.shtml
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #45
    Nah, but you know, Bush and Cheney and Haliburton are just making tons of cash and laughing at us. :rolleyes:


    Afghanistan IMO was a mistake and done purely as a symbolic gesture of retort not unlike that of the Doolittle Raid post 12/7.

    There is absolutely no US interest in Afghanistan atm. None, political, social, strategic or otherwise. Iraq however, was a much different story. Anyone that believes oil was the sole motivator was either born yesterday or has been living under a rock. Was it a factor? Of course.

    Keeping that region stable enough to insure we do not suffer an even greater energy crisis to me, is a good US interest and more than justifiable in terms of the end result.

    Are we there to make money off it? No. Are we there to ensure that we and the world are not held hostage by it? Sure. That's a big part of it.

    Is it the only reason? HELL NO...

    Just as much as we cannot discount the reasons we are there, we too should NEVER discount the reasons we are not.
     
    Mia, Oct 5, 2009 IP
  6. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #46
    Good question. At this point I don't think there's any good reason for a large military presence in Afghanistan. I can understand the possibility of a more targeted (on specific terrorist cells) type approach (which from my understanding is what VP Biden is suggesting) but ... yeah, it'll be a disaster if we expand the Afghanistan war. I hope President Obama doesn't make the mistake of escalating this war but I'm afraid he will. If he does I'm afraid that the main reason would be political pressure.
     
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  7. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #47
    it is an Opium War
     
    ziya, Oct 8, 2009 IP
  8. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Noop, they are after Pakistan's nukes. They're very pissed cause they were not able to stop them building nukes during 80's. Former DGISI Gen. Hameed Gul stated in 2002-2003: "9-11 was the excuse, Afghanistan the base and Pakistan the TARGET". As you can see all the attention is turned towards Pakistan now. http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/article_detail.php?id=148
     
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  9. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #49
    Well it is not only Opium War :) Afghanistan could be the good base for USA. There are many countries in the list . Now :

    1- Pakistan
    2- Iran

    Maybe they are not going to fight against Pakistan. But Pakistan could be a Target too

    [​IMG]
     
    ziya, Oct 8, 2009 IP
  10. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #52
    Hide your women, your oil, and your nuclear weapons . . .

    The US is coming to get 'em. Suckers!
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #53
    The best thing the US could do in Afghanistan is pull out and napalm the opium fields. That's pretty much put an end to the Taliban and well, pretty much everything over there.

    That or we could convince the kool-aid drinkers here at home to stop buying the stuff.
     
    Mia, Oct 9, 2009 IP
  14. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #54
    Why USA didn't do that ? As you see , it was raising since 2001 to 2007
     
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    #55
    @imad and zia

    Guys, also lookup for Hadith regarding Khurasan and Black Flags. They provide an interesting view of present situation in Afghanistan

    Related by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)


    more related Hadith here http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120449
    the areas which fall under khurasan region are all in which taliabn are active, that also includes the north west border areas of Pakistan

    more http://maqasid.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/khurasan-signs-of-the-end-of-times/ (do read this one, very informative)
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #56
    Because its more important to our "foreign image" to portray ourselves as liberators and nation builders than conquerers or problem solvers.

    The objective goal in any conflict should be resolution. When that conflict involves right vs. wrong and good vs. evil, the objective goal should be to crush and defeat.
     
    Mia, Oct 9, 2009 IP
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    #57
    heroin in afghanistan.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #58
    The events in the last few years has shown that most of Americans are against going to war and killing people and the right wing loud mouthes who want to "crush and defeat" are too much of sissy to go and fight, so who do you suggest should go and crush and defeat? :rolleyes:

    We already know you can't because of your "medical" conditions. ;)
     
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    #59
    good point

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    #60
    There is a concept called PETRODOLLAR, that is the reason Afghanistan was attacked.
     
    neoanderson, Oct 17, 2009 IP