Can a Supplemental Page be Rescued?

Discussion in 'Google' started by jj1, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have recently created the following page to try to optimise for the phrase "website design Bury St Edmunds":

    http://www.uniquewebsites.co.uk/website-design-bury-st-edmunds/website-design-bury-st-edmunds.htm

    but am annoyed to find it's gone straight into the supplemental. I thought I'd put enough unique content in it but obviously didn't.

    Do I need to start from scratch and create a page with a new URl - eg web-design-bury-st-edmunds.htm - or, if I add more info to the page in the supplemental, will Google review this in the future and put it back into the main index?

    Does anyone have any experience of this? Would welcome any advice.
     
    jj1, Jan 3, 2009 IP
  2. FREE BET

    FREE BET Peon

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    #2
    no need to start from scratch, just get some high quality backlinks pointing to the page
     
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  3. brian65

    brian65 Active Member

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    #3
    Build links to the page - from within the site and external links - and you should move into the main index.
     
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    opmax-thailand Peon

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    #4
    Try to get some high quality links, 1 PR5 link on an average quality site would probably do the trick. But don't buy the link ;)
     
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  5. JohnS0N

    JohnS0N Notable Member

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    #5
    Pagerank is the primary factor that is used to decide whether a duplicate page should go in the supplemental index. So as advised, get a few good quality links pointing to it. And give it some inner links.
     
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  6. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #6
    cough cough....

    Build your "Deep Links" Sir ....

    laterz
    malcolm
     
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    IEmailer.com Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Get more quality links to that particular page, and you could even add more unique content to it ;)
     
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    johnegood Active Member

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    #8
    I have the same question. Can anyone tell me that they've actually compared the effectiveness of rewriting a page versus getting more links to a page ?

    Secondly, does anyone have any info on whether adding internal links works?
     
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  9. JohnS0N

    JohnS0N Notable Member

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    If it works? Look at wikipedia. They dominate most of their targeted terms in google usually by the power of authority and internal linking.
     
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  10. jj1

    jj1 Active Member

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    Many thanks for the advice. I've now changed my signature to include this page and will try to find some other sources of deep links. Any advice on good sources for deep links welcomed. Hope this works - don't want to waste links on a page that I'll eventuall have to discard.
     
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    Seller5250 Peon

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    Have you thought about designing some sites (Premium) and posting them to many free template sites with good PR or giving them out in a package, do some tutorials on youtube and post your link there (check out the Photoshop tutorial Videos on youtube) (lots of views) think about good relevant quality links and build them I am sure many people in the design field would love to trade links w/ you, all you have to do is ask. I think its seo-elite that will find the emails of all similar sites in a category and mass email your request to all of them
     
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    Shellerz Active Member

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    #12
    I would personally say it has nothing to do with links going to the page...

    I think you need to create unique content, unique meta descriptions and unique title tags - it will come out of supplemental index no problem
     
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    jj1 Active Member

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    Shellerz - you said:
    This comes back to my original question - is it now too late to add more unique content - ie will Google revisit a supplemental page and reevaluate it? Do you know of any cases where this has happened?
     
    jj1, Jan 4, 2009 IP
  14. Shellerz

    Shellerz Active Member

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    I have 50 clients at work. ! of them in particular had LOTs of pages treated as supplemental. It was an ecommerce site with lots of similar product pages with similar content (only sizes differed between many pages) and they had identicle meta descriptions. They changes the content and meta data and many have come back into the main index.

    so to summarise I think they can definitely be saved as long as google continues to crawl the site.
     
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    I'm doing an experiment on this question right now. I have 10 pages languishing in the supplementary index. I'm given each one a different treatment to see what works.

    I don't want to share all my secrets but I am, as research, listing one of the pages in my signature on this forum to see if the link value of outgoing links from this forum weigh enough in google's mind to move it out of the supplementary index.
     
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    brian65 Active Member

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    Google will definitely reevaluate supplemental pages. I've had sites fully indexed but only 1% of the pages NOT in the supplemental. I started link-building though and improved the internal linking and hundreds of pages came into the main index.
     
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  17. jj1

    jj1 Active Member

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    Many thanks for all your replies. The page in question has actually just come out of the supplemental of its own accord. But thank you all anyway. I'm keeping the info in my mind for future situations.
     
    jj1, Jan 11, 2009 IP
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    #18
    I thought I remembered reading now long ago that aside of in the branded searches like AOL for the most part a supplemental result can still be pulled up by searchers?
     
    promomanagers, Jan 11, 2009 IP