Feedback Can a mod / admin please restore my thead?

Hi,

I made a thread: https://forums.digitalpoint.com/thr...ypal-or-bitcoin-your-choice-no-rules.2722833/

It's for a contest I am doing. It was deleted and I received a warning for duplicated content within seconds of posting it. It was not duplicated content!

It was the same contest but I made a bunch of changes and reposted it in a new thread (since I couldn't edit the original title, body, ect.) and told anyone that had planned to enter go to the new link / thread.

Within just a few seconds of that post going live I got an email saying I got a warning for duplicate content. It's quite obvious that the mod or who ever gave me that warning and deleted my thread didn't read much of ANYTHING (they couldn't have based on how quickly it was deleted).

Can someone please restore the thread (deleting the old one is fine too) and remove the warning from my account. It's probably not a bad idea to report the mod that did this to the admin as well since he's obviously not doing a good job or caring much about what he's doing.

Thanks.

 

I can't because I can't edit the title which is super important in this particular case which is why I wanted to just redirect anyone that may had been working on an entry to the new changes / thread for the entries. I made a lot of changes to it and posted a notification in to the old post saying it's changed.

 

Because I don't see the option to, I guess I'm missing something. Checking again.

 

Ok ya, just went back and burned my once per month bump / edit credit only to find out you cannot edit a title of the thread, only the body of the content.... /sigh - Again, this is why I wanted to just create a new thread and delete the old one so I could get it right.

 

So what am I doing wrong exactly? See screenshot: https://s3.amazonaws.com/diigo/8066...227527&Signature=Mw2jXf4ZZHcHxVq2e7i8S0NTfRA=

 

It was expired the first time when I created the second thread and wanted to delete the old one (which is why I did it). Yet I am being told to just edit it.... even though I can't without burning that credit.

Even after I burned my once a month credit I didn't see an option to 'EDIT THE TITLE' of the thread, only the body.

So what exactly am I suppose to do. The insane amount of arbitrary rules which exist here confuse me. I'm just trying to get the proper message out about the contest I'd like to do for the users here. Wondering if can do that without accidentally getting banned by random pointless rule 10004302202....

 

Considering that I've been here since 2006, I'm sure those rules have been changed around a lot. No, I don't go through those with a fine tooth comb every update but at the same time I'm not out to break any rules and I don't ever get any warnings at other forums I frequent. That only happens here from the arbitrary rule set in place that works against it's users; "Such as requiring you to edit posts that you can't actually edit" rather than creating a new post that's NOT actually duplicate content but has similar content that was edited from the original content which is required to get the correct message to users and the old post being que'd for deletion/ redirect.

I don't think that rule was implemented to make sense in this galaxy / dimension since it's impossible to abide by and still accomplish your goal of making an accurate post....

Thanks for your input, it's just too bad you didn't address my concern at all from the previous post though

 

hmm.. seems no one can explain how to edit a post when you're not allowed to edit a post and the rules say you have to edit the post if it has any similar content, right? Wish I could get some actual help here so I can post the correct contest...

 

So if that is up, what are you suppose to do if you're not allowed to make another post that has any similar content? This is my scenario...

 

So what you're telling me is:

If I made an error or would like to make a very important change to a thread (which was unfortunately noticed or determined after the 8 hour window) and I have no bump / edit credit, my ONLY option is to leave the incorrect post up for a month until I have another credit?

Do you honestly think this sounds like a policy or rule that should be in place or doesn't seem severely flawed to you? Maybe it's an edge case situation but when it happens and it's an important post (especially for a contest that can't wait a month), don't you think the users deserve to get the correct information so they can participate and not force me to take my contest elsewhere?

I've done many of these and contributed a lot of honest business to this site over the years and I really feel like I'm getting treated unfairly here.

 

So, let me try to explain better since your explanation really didn't address my specific points, again. I'll do this broken down point by point so I hopefully don't leave anything out and it's clear what I'm trying to say.

1) "We give people the ability to edit for 8 hours. We also give people the ability to restart that 8 hour edit window if they need with the Bump/Edit/Relist option."

I understand this and normally that's probably fine. In this case I was running a contest, which I realized after the 8 hour window was up would not work because no one was entering. Specifically the prize was in Bitcoin and people are mostly after cash. After not getting any entries I decided to change up the contest entirely and make it a cash contest with a bitcoin prize optional. This required changing the title to let users that may have already seen the thread know it's an entirely new contest / prize as well as had the rules changed. EVEN AFTER using the edit credit, I could not find a way to edit the title of the thread which was one of the most important changes that needed to take place. By the time staff had replied again and I was able to see this the 8 hours was already up from the credit and I could not check anything else. It seemed to me like staff was making a mistake saying you can edit an existing thread TITLE (not body / content) because I could not find any option to do so. Otherwise I gladly would have made this change and situation would have been resolved at the cost of burning that credit.

2) Having a rule about not allowing duplicate threads is nothing new, it's been there since day 1.

That's great and that's a good rule to have for people trying to spam the same post all over the forum and cheat the system and get as much exposure as they can for their thread at the cost of adding a bunch of duplicate content to your forum. I assume this is what the rule was designed to prevent, am I correct? In my case I was trying to fix a critical problem which I found no alternate solution to. I also was not posting identical content it actually was changed although similar content (is there a rule for that? If so, how much has to be changed to not consider it duplicate? How is that determined, did whom ever gave me the warning use some formula to make this determination?). Title was changed as well as several changes to the body of the post. This was not just a copy and paste identical thread by any means. I had also noted in the old thread that the thread / contest was been moved / changed because I could not properly make the changes required to the current thread. So whether or not the breaking of this rule has occurred is a matter of interpenetration, is it not? I don't think I've broken any rules, and certainly was not trying to do so intentionally. I think I've only tried to host a contest for DP users and have run in to considerable road blocks and difficulty getting help from staff here.

3) "And yes, I'd say that someone not editing something they wanted to edit within the 8 hour window and then also using their monthly "token" to restart the edit window but again not actually editing it in that new window is very much an edge case."

I think this has been broken down and explained enough now in 1 and 2 so that you can understand properly.

4) Either way, we aren't going to start allowing users to start reposting every thread they make if that's what you are asking? That causes far more problems overall than it would solve.

Never was the intention. My only goal was to find / apply a solution to the problem I was having which didn't have one. Only honest intentions for an issue I was having which NEVER attempted to undermine the forum rules / policies in place, only get the correct information in to a thread for forum users so that my contest could take place. I do not believe that my situation was one that these 'rules' were put in place to combat and frankly the replies I've gotten have just been argumentative and dismissive and haven't directly addressed the points I've been making.

I firmly believe that at this point you guys are just being purposely difficult to someone that is doing nothing more than trying to fix a legitimate problem.