Can a Copywriter Make a Great Living?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by Masterful, Sep 5, 2009.

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  1. DrJale

    DrJale Active Member

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    #41
    I guess that everything depends on effort. Interesting posts... they certainly give something to think about!

    Thanks!
     
    DrJale, Sep 24, 2009 IP
  2. matawang

    matawang Peon

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    #42
    why not? one example is alan forrest :D
     
    matawang, Sep 25, 2009 IP
  3. jkpal

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    #43
    It depends on the quality of the writing and the buyers. It is possible to make good job
     
    jkpal, Sep 26, 2009 IP
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    rexertea Well-Known Member

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    #44
    hey, who is Allan forrest?
     
    rexertea, Sep 26, 2009 IP
  5. rexertea

    rexertea Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Do you know his name?
     
    rexertea, Sep 28, 2009 IP
  6. parmy

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    #46
    tnnx guys...i think all are agree with this thread..these replies will boost copywriters copywriters.
     
    parmy, Oct 2, 2009 IP
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    #47
    most great copywriters are super rich , not only because they get paid 10s of thousands of dollars per job but because they are so good they can sell anything and they sell just about anything they want. A smart copy writer will sell on their own their own products.

    You see a lot of them sell themselves through seminars and mastermind programs. Big big money
     
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    #48
    I have made $8000 from my articles on Ezine Articles... while that is slow money, here are some options you can consider:

    1. Working for elance- Bidding on projects, and giving your samples, and working long term.
    2. Working for yourself- Write e-books, make webpages, market it and recruit affiliates to sell it. If you cannot write very well, outsource the ebooks to be written, pay the fee, rinse and repeat.
    3. Use DNS for faster turnaround times- Dragon naturally speaking turns your voice into text... and if you type slow, this may help you to produce articles faster.
    4. Make article packets- of about 10 articles in hot niches. Sell this for a good price. If you have a few packets, like 5+, you can easily earn alot of money just in one day.


    There are so many other options for making money with copywriting- such as doing sales pages, sales letters and all kinds of other things- But it all depends on what you like to do. If you like to write for yourself, it may be a more slow process, whereas writing for others can earn you fast cash.
     
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  9. rexertea

    rexertea Well-Known Member

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    #49
    How you got money from Ezine articles? Does Ezine pay? I am not sure about this. Please let me know.
     
    rexertea, Oct 4, 2009 IP
  10. happy_dayz

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    No, ezine articles doesn't pay. What you can do, is you can become an affiliate marketer through clickbank or other websites. You basically market other people's products and make about 75% off of each sale. Most sales then are about 20-30$ then, for the most popular products. You have to have a website to do this, but you can redirect the website to the product of which you are an affiliate...thus ruling out a landing page. however a landing page is suggested- especially a opt in one- so that you can catch them for sales later.

    This is what I did/have done, but I also don't really consider the $8000 to be all that much, as I have actually had over 1300 articles out. I have also not backlinked these articles, and backlinking your articles (if you just do article marketing) is key to getting the kinds of views, sales, and ultimately conversions that you want.
     
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  11. dbishop103

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    #51
    I agree that you can make a VERY good career out of copywriting, but it can also be exacting work unless you have a real knack for it. Sure, you can learn to be a good copywriter, but you also have to have a strong command of the language, understand PR and sales motivation and be willing to work with very demanding clients - as most people (I've dealt with) who hire copywriters are. I tried it for awhile, but it's not my strong suite as my educational background is in journalism. But you can easily earn thousands a week if you're good and build a good reputation. I know beginning copywriters who charge (and receive) $2,500 or more for one salesletter. And those aren't the "big names."
     
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    #52
    but how to find those clients that pay such a big and lucrative amount.
     
    rexertea, Oct 5, 2009 IP
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    Easy. Make yourself visible and build your network so they can find you. You'll very rarely find them. It's just not how that kind of market generally works for writers.
     
    jhmattern, Oct 6, 2009 IP
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    #54
    Hi jhmattern,

    your posts have very informative directives. I am thankful to you for your replies. I am facing a serious problem with my writing. sometimes, I am not paid by the buyers. Now, I would like to know, when should you accept the pay, or rather when as a practice, a writer should ask for the payments. Is it before he starts a project? or 50% in advance, before he starts work, and rest of the 50% after the completion of work, or full payment after the completion of work.

    please tell me what do you actually do? and what should I do? this has become a problem for me, at times, though not always.
     
    rexertea, Oct 8, 2009 IP
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    What I actually do isn't necessarily what you should do. Almost all of my clients (except for one or two who have been on other payment terms for years) pay in full before I start any work. Until you have a lot of demand for your time and people vying for a slice of it, you might not be able to set that kind of policy though. In my case, if someone doesn't want to pay up front, I have a waiting list of people who would be happy to step in and take the time slot with no argument. Newer writers are still looking to build that demand, so they have to be more flexible.

    Under no circumstances though would I suggest letting people pay in full after the work is done. If they're not willing to pay at least 50% up front, I wouldn't take them seriously as a buyer. After all, if they lose money they have recourse through their payment provider. If you lose time (your primary asset), it's irreplaceable. You lose income permanently if they don't pay.

    I'd also be concerned if you're having this problem frequently. That would mean that you're not spending enough time checking up on clients before doing business with them. Don't just look at iTrader on the forum for example. Review their website, look for past threads to see reviews and testimonials, etc.

    On top of that I'd strongly suggest that to attract better clients you take the sensationalized links out of your forum signature and replace the "PM me" message about your services with a link to a professional website. If you don't have one, build one. In the meantime, link to a service thread where you give details instead. Just don't treat that as a permanent option.
     
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    I agree, for any job over $20 or so, I always ask for a 50% deposit. I used to do this only with new clients, but having struggled to get paid by people I had worked for several months, it's now my policy. Period.
     
    dbishop103, Oct 8, 2009 IP
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    rexertea Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Thank you very much for your reply. though, I don't have a professional website, but your answer is worth the value of gold. I was looking to find the answer even before I joined DP, let's see, what I can do. I need to change things here. I might need some time.
    Thank you very much.
     
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    #58
    I know this works.

    So many people are making money like the way you're making.

    What I'm thinking of is submitting unique articles to 1000 or more directories from the same seed article.

    So, my question: do you have 1300 articles on ezine itself? did you write them all by your self? or they are like unique copies made of the same seed article?

    What would you prefer, building a lists or redirecting to an affiliate product's sales page?

    I prefer building a lists though I'm not sure what is better.

    BTW, we can get clients by writing articles and submitting them to ezinearticles.com! why doesn't anyone even talk about that?


     
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  19. jhmattern

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    Because better paying clients wouldn't look to sources like EzineArticles for writers they want to hire in most cases -- ezine can actually cheapen your writing if you plan to sell those services if you use them (and similar unpaid publishing outlets) too much.
     
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  20. masterpeace

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    its just amazing....writing articles full time can almost earn you 2k-3k a month.....believe it or not
     
    masterpeace, Oct 11, 2009 IP
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