Can a Christian here explain the concept of hell...?

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  1. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #101
    He went to conference with God. They are brainstorming an argument.
     
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    #102
    Too bad we shoot down every "argument" they come up with...with facts lol. Other than that one where he asked about where the universe came from, but, at least we are willing to admit we don't know yet. Instead of giving all the credit to the mysterious invisible man in the sky.

    I wonder, Nehemiya, do you hear God speak to you? Just curious. If so, you may want to go see a shrink.
     
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  3. jhelectronics

    jhelectronics Peon

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    #103
    He let these bad things happen, because he gave us free will.

    Sin is like poison. If you had two glasses of water. One glass of water had 1 cup of poison added to it and the other one only had 1 Tbls of poison added to it. What glass of water would you drink?
     
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  4. mdvasanth86

    mdvasanth86 Notable Member

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    #104

    I will only drink Kent purified mineral water.


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    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    #105
    Having invisible friends can not be healthy mentally.
     
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  6. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamerâ„¢

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    #106
    But they did not have knowledge till they ate from the tree, basically they were little kids. Me thinks god goofed.
     
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    jhelectronics Peon

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    #107
    What do you mean they did not have knowledge? They were told not to eat from the tree.
     
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    #108
    But god knew they would, right?
     
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  9. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    #109
    If they're "generally unnoticeable" then how do you know they're there/happening? And what proof can you provide that they "have no effect on the organism either way"? If your word is all you have, I understand:D.

    Sounds very matter of fact. But proof is required?

    Then you've just contradicted your earlier statement, "Mutations are generally unnoticeable and have no effect on the organism either way."
    Unless of course, "damaging" is not an "effect", huh?

    This "natural selection" thing, if that kinda like INTELLIGENT DESIGN?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    because we have the science of genetics. We are able to look at an organisms genome and identify the alterations in it's DNA which produce no superficial changes in it's appearance or abilities and genes which have no function.

    That's a very dangerous thing for a theist to be demanding. I'll try to find the book (one written this century) that i read it in. But in the mean time feel free to deny that mutations occur (go on, make it even easier for me).

    it's understandable that you will intentionally misinterpret "generally" to mean "always". But in the interest of ripping you to pieces i will humour your tactics and explain what simple words written in plain English mean. generally means more often than not. So if mutations are "generally" unnoticeable and have no real effect on the organism it doesn't, in any sense, mean that mutations which do have an effect don't exist, It just means that if we piled all the mutations together most of them wouldn't result in the organism being any better or worse suited to it's environment.

    In what way? Natural selection has no will, no consciousness and no goal. it's simply the selection of beneficial traits by the virtue of the organism being, well, better suited to that particular environment.

    Could you answer the following questions yes or no please.
    1. do genetic mutations occur?
    2. Are genetic characteristics passed on to progeny?
    3. Do organisms best suited to their environment generally have more offspring?
    4. could a large number of small changes culminate in to what could be described as a large change?

    for the record, i will assume any deviation, obfuscation and avoidance of these questions as an admission of defeat.
     
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    #111
    And defeat it is, by virtue of forfeit, since someone can't even keep himself from being banned :)
     
    hostlonestar, Mar 28, 2009 IP