Can a Christian here explain the concept of hell...?

I was just wondering if someone here might explain the concept of hell... what goes on there, why's it such a bad place etc.

Also can you explain the "soul". Is it a physical entity or spiritual or what?

Thanks.

 

Soul is pure consciousness. Earth is hell.

 

i agree.........

 

hmm... Hell is the word in " What the hell?"

soul is... hmm... no idea.

 

Hell is what they invented when they realised that people couldn't be coerced into doing as they were told with hope of a reward alone, they needed fear of punishment to go with it.

 

The "soul" is YOU (the Consciousness; Awareness); You, the Soul, is the everlasting you; your body is where you are housed. You (The Soul) is Spiritual in your being, and housed in a Physical body (a body conducive to the Physical Realm) controlled by a Brain and kept functioning (alive; working) by a Heart and Blood. When the Physical Body ceases to live (dies), You cease to function and/or exist in the Physical Realm, and proceed to function, totally, in the Spiritual Realm, for the rest of Eternity.

You will either function in the Spiritual (and New Physical) Realm, with GOD (Everlasting Life in the New Heaven and the New Earth). . .or you will function in the Spiritual Realm apart/separated from GOD (Everlasting death in Hell and The Lake of Fire and Brimstone).
According to JESUS CHRIST (WHO HIMSELF went to Hell),
"...And being in torments in Hell, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
‘Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.'
(Multiple pain and agony [note the “s” at the end of “torments”]; able to look up and see Heaven, but never be able to go There [”lifted his eyes”], and recognize [”Abraham. . .and Lazarus”]; Able to utilize the five senses which means the presence of a Physical body; the slightest amount of relief will be welcomed [“dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue”]; hot [“in this flame”]).

But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
(Still loved by GOD [“Son”]; Can and will “remember”; No Entrances for those who may want to rescue someone, and no Exits, for those who try and escape [“between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.”])

‘Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
(You become Pride-less [“I beg you...”]; A place you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy, let alone your family.)
Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'
(But just because you now realize that Hell is real, GOD still doesn’t change HIS Methodology of attempting to convince anyone else of that, especially those not yet there because they have HIS WORD/The Scriptures [“They have Moses and the prophets [“The Old Testament/Tanakh”]; let them hear them.”])
And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
(But, even in Hell, you still think you know better than GOD [“And he said, 'No’”], even though you’ve become very “religious” [“father Abraham”].)
But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'‘
(If they don’t believe GOD’S WORD [“The Bible”], they won’t believe someone coming back from the dead.)" (Luke 16:23-31)

But, to me, even worse than all this is what JESUS stated about Hell elsewhere, ". . .where 'Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.'"; Now what this means, is that maggots ("worm"), that eat decaying, rotting flesh (and then normally die when all the flesh has been consumed), will never die in Hell, because they eating your decaying, rotting flesh. . .FOREVER. (Mark 9:44,46,48)

But the biggest bottom line is that Hell, nor The Lake of fire and brimstone, was not even made ("prepared") for, nor intended for Humans. So anyone who goes to Hell, goes there FREELY, and of their own choosing.

 

Actually, "hell" or "sheol" as we think of it is never described as such in the Bible. This was a Greek concept that permeated into Jewish theology and later into Christian teachings.

"For God so loved that world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Most preachers are dead wrong on this topic.

God bless.

 

Why not choose to go to heaven then?

live your life, do what you want, then be like 'oops- hey godsy, send me to heaven. Thanks.'

 

This was a parable. Read my definition of a parable above. This came directly out of the Midrash and was common teaching at the time, but completly unbiblical (I challenge you to find it anywhere in the Old Testament, trust me you won't).

Hell, the second death, is not a choice, it's a destiny, for all mankind. The choice is eternal life, for all whom God opens their eyes to see it. For some He has created as vessels of wrath, and some vessels of mercy (Romans 9:22-23), for Jacob He loved, but Esau He didn't. Romans 9:13

God bless.

 

Well, the argument is that you have rewards to earn all throughout this life, so you will miss out on all that.

 

Revelation 20 describes a grim overview of what unbelievers will see on the day of judgement. Clearly, there are three key beliefs on this issue but I believe all have biblical standing. #1: You will be seperated from God #2: The punishment will be eternal. #3: The punishment will be horrible torment (whether this is physical, spiritual, or both forms of pain is up for debate). Regardless, I don't want to be in that situation one day.

 

And I challenge you to find anywhere else, in a Parable by JESUS where HE used/uses Proper Names.
JESUS CHRIST, never used Proper Names ("Abraham", "Lazarus", etc.) in "Parables".

And I suppose you also believe it was "a parable" in Mark 9:42-50?

If "Hell. . .is not a choice", how do human souls end up there when it was, according to JESUS, "prepared for the devil and his angels (Matthew 24:41)"?
Or maybe you can debate the following: "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (2Peter 3:9)"

As for "eternal life", it is a GIFT (Romans 6:23); and a GIFT is only given to those who accept it.

BLESS YOU!

 

The phrase preceeding "perish" is not "shall not" as you have misquoted above, but rather "should not"; which makes a big difference, because of the word "in" as opposed to "on (as in verse 36)"

And you know this how?

 

This was a common Midrash teaching that involved Abraham, Lazarus, and everyone that was mentioned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosom_of_Abraham

If hell is a choice, then why does Romans say that death has passed from Adam to Moses? Romans 5:12 and that all have fallen short and only those God has chosen will receive His mercy.

Romans 9:18 "Therefore, God has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses."

Sounds like God's the one in control to me.

Acts 2:29 "For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.”

God bless.

 

I'm sure plenty of people who have believed in the Lord have died, the Apostle Paul was one, nice try

Just walk with the Lord and you will know the Truth, it's not that hard.

God bless.

 

I don't do secular opinions when it comes understanding the Parabolic (nor any of the other) Teachings of JESUS CHRIST. But then, if the secular "wikipedia.org" states it to be so, then by all means. . .

For the person (the sinner) who refuses (which is a choice) to accept (which is a choice) the Finished work of JESUS CHRIST on his (the sinner's) behalf, he (the sinner) has made "hell" his "choice", of dwelling place forever. Hell is the consequence of his choice. Ergo, he has chosen to go to Hell, because he had the option to not go.
Now then, to your point, GOD IS ETERNAL. . .HE IS already at the Judgment (and beyond) that the sinner is waiting to get to. GOD already knows who is save, who will be saved, and who will be damned in Hell (and "the Lake of fire and brimstone"); but each and every person that ends up in Hell, will have been given every opportunity that has been afforded to those who will not end up there. GOD DID NOT pro-ordain who would and would not be saved and/or damned, but rather, HE Omniscient-ly prepared HIMSELF for any outcome on our part. This is what the Doctrine of Predestination (Romans 8:29-30) ("Predestinate") is all about.

Please stop 'Buffet-styling' Scripture, and keep them within their proper context. This is how the Justice of GOD gets so grossly distorted, even by well meaning believers.
Romans 9:17 shows us what Romans 9:18 means, "For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.".
Now how many times did GOD give Pharaoh the opportunity to choose HIS WAY and obey GOD?
And after Pharaoh, repeatedly refuse to "obey HIS VOICE", GOD used HIM for HIS Object Lesson to show the consequences of bad choices.

Of course GOD is in Control. But you're teaching that not everyone has the opportunity at the same Salvation that GOD is in control of. And that's just not so.
A prime example is Jonah and Nineveh; GOD had already determined to destroy Nineveh, but after they believe GOD'S WORD, via Jonah, and repented, they were spared. . .and GOD was still in control.

And who is it, that "the Lord our God" DOES NOT "call to Himself"? Answer that, please? Or did you miss the following Scripture, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.". Who's not included, in "anyone"???

Obviously, it wasn't a "nice try "; Because, according to you, JESUS CHRIST is/was a Liar ("Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?'"). . .or you don't understand what it means to "have fallen asleep", according to 1Corinthians 15:6. Now which is it?

Its not, "Just walk with the Lord and you will know the Truth", but rather, "Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, 'If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.'".
JESUS CHRIST is Currently seated at "THE RIGHT HAND of THE FATHER"; So that cavalier attitude of "Just walk with the Lord and you will know the Truth", is neither Scriptural nor what we were commanded to do. Here's JESUS' WORD to those of us now, "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.". That "He" would be THE HOLY SPIRIT.

 

For many atheists it's truly not a choice. Myself, I don't know if G-d exists, and that is from my heart (I'm agnostic). You can't MAKE yourself believe in something that you don't really feel. If I told you that Fairies are living out in your garden, could you make yourself believe that, if you just didn't? If I pretended that I did, I would be a liar. If you take Stox for example, I think he is a very kind hearted person. He spends a significant amount of time trying to help homeless animals, and cares a great deal about the suffering in the world. I think that's why he detests religion to such a degree, because it tends to cause so much suffering. People that don't believe, REALLY don't believe. They don't choose to go to hell, they honestly just don't believe in hell. What kind of a cruel and sadistic G-d would condemn these people to everlasting suffering?

 

Why do you apply this "truly not a choice" just to "many" and not 'all'? How do you determine who the "many" are, as opposed to the 'all'? The answer is very simple; you believe that "For many atheists it's truly not a choice", because you have chosen this to be so. . .according to your standard. You choose to believe "many" and not 'all'. And it was/is easier for you to believe "many" instead of 'all' because you can leave it at that without offending anyone.

GOD says that "ALL (Everybody) have sinned and come short of HIS Glory [Perfection]" (Romans 3:10); The penalty of sin is [Spiritual, Physical, and Everlasting] "Death" (Romans 6:23).
Rebecca, GOD, whether you now believe or not, has planned for every possible contingency and/or excuse that anyone could ever possibly come up with for their/your unbelief. And, again, believe it or not, HE has even provided a way for the unbeliever/the unbelieving to believe: "Faith (believing GOD) come by hearing THE WORD of GOD (Scripture)" (Romans 10:17).
To believe, or not believe is a choice for anyone. There are no exception. All atheist and agnostics spend more time trying not believe GOD than they/you do trying to believe GOD. . .and that my Dear, is a choice. And it has to be done GOD'S Prescribed way, or by the time you find out that GOD Really IS, it'll be too late.

It is written: "Without faith (believing) it is impossible to please GOD: for he that come to GOD must believe that HE IS, and that HE is a rewarder of them that diligently seek HIM." (Hebrew 11:6)

You can't make yourself do anything that you've never done before without first practicing. . .whether you "feel" like it or not!

Of course I could! But what benefit would it be to me, "that Fairies are living out in" my "garden"? Are they going to insure that I have Everlasting Life? Are they going to clear up questions that I have about things going on inside my house and/or around other areas of my life not related to my "garden"?

If Stox "detests religion" and blames GOD for it, then Stox's blame is very very misplaced, and very very ignorantly so. I say this because:
1) GOD is NOT about "religion", but rather, GOD IS about RELATIONSHIP!
2) Stox would know this if he would just "detests religion" 15 minutes less, per day, and spend that time just reading a different Scripture. . .and watch what will have happened in 30 days. And the same applies to you.
3) GOD is NOT the cause for "the suffering in the world", yesterday, today, nor tomorrow; Mankind (you and I), Satan/the devil, sin, and death are the causes, collectively.

And People that do believe, REALLY do believe. Either way, its each individual's choice.

The Doctor tells you that you have colon cancer; he say that he can remove it (because its been detected early enough) and you'll live. . .but you don't believe him; you don't believe that you're going to die. One year later you die. Who's fault is it that you died? And are you any less dead, because you didn't believe that you were going to die?

Would you re-expose your Children to a disease that almost destroyed You and them?

 

sorry i m hindu.

 

I suppose you think it's a choice to be gay or not as well?