I think the new rules are ridiculous. About a year ago, I was an established member of this website, with over 100 posts. I did a lot of business here, buying domains, sites, traffic, ads. Now I come back to this site, which was my favorite place to shop for webmaster related services. I have an idea for a website and would like to buy a domain. Much to my disbelief I now have to have 3 likes to my posts. I come here to do straight business, and not post and impress anyone. I can be a member here for a long time and do business in such a way that I may never get a single like, because I mostly reply to ads by PM or post requests. What are you trying to protect your site from? Spammers, low quality posts? well I am certainly not a spammer and I can't say that my posts will have much quality or be "like" worthy but what I will do, is spend money here, get some cash flow going into this website's economy and people like me are automatically not allowed to post to marketplace and other places. I understand if I was a new user, but I have been a member of DP for over 5 years. It's a shame that this website has bought into the whole "like" hype and uses that as a basis to filter good posters from bad posters. My 2c ps. I realize that I can get an extra like just by posting this thread, but this is not the point, it's the principle of the matter. People shouldn't have to have likes in order to post in some sections. It's not fair to force people to garner likes.
Well either way, if you want to buy a domain, which is what you originally said you wanted to do, there is nothing preventing that. Just use the filtering tos to find exactly the one you want.
I already did that. everything I need is too old. Why should I be prevented from posting: "Need a bla bla bla related domain or website, whos selling?"
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But what good is it to fight or resist this? It is the way it is, so if you're wanting to do business here, you have to get with the program. And the sooner you accept this, the faster you can get back to business on here.....just my 2 cents.
That's a pretty odd requirement... You want a domain that isn't old? What's the maximum amount of time it can be registered for in order for you to want it? Have you tried posting a "WTB" post on a domain marketplace like Sedo or Flippa already?
What was wrong with the old system? I had good DP rating or whatever it was called, had like 16 positive feedbacks on prompt payments and "great to deal with" type of stuff. Shouldn't that count for something? Especailly since we are talking about market place. I understand for brand new users, who could be anything from spammer to spambot but users like me? Member since 2007? I am sure its not just me, this site has lots of members many of whom contribute in ways other then like mining. I dont mean the domains are too old, I would love an old domain, I mean posts are too old as in nobody is selling what I need at the moment. This is not my point, I can obviously look elsewhere. I posted this post as feedback to the new "like" system. And from what I can see, many have the same opinion.
It's been covered about 1,000 times already. The marketplace was never ever as anything other than a benefit to contributing members. You've always needed to be an established user to use it. The only thing that changed is there is a better way to gauge who's a contributing member now. In fact, users can use the marketplace quicker than they could before.
I agree that you should be an established user. But someone who posted a funny joke and received a bunch of likes has an easier time in posting in marketplace over someone who bought things from there. How is that fair?
Anyone can buy things... You don't need to be an established user. So your comparison doesn't make much sense. And if you are selling a digital good, you also don't need to be established to sell. Basically it sounds like you are wanting to post a "buying" thread because you don't want to be bothered looking through what's for sale (do you really think someone is selling a domain skimming for buying threads, rather than posting it for sale?) Basically you are talking about not being able to go something that 1. Is pointless (see above), and 2. isn't even something you can do at any price on other marketplace sites. When was the last time you saw a "buying" post on eBay or Flippa?
I looked through whats for sale and found nothing current. Please don't tell me what I did or didn't do. And yes I want to post a "buying" thread, what the hell is wrong with that? You are just picking and choosing things from what I tried to do suit your argument. Forget what I tried to do, that doesn't matter. The bottom line is Digitalpoint bought into this "like" hype over a much better system of feedback. Absolutely ridiculous especially since we are are talking about posting rights in MARKETPLACE.
The established membership system is a clever way to make sure that the users contribute before they start using the benefits of the forum. A few minor problems may occur for old members due to the forum transition but it shouldn't be life threatening. Spend a couple of minutes helping people and you should be good to go.
Sadly some people just aren't interested in helping others, obviously their time is just to precious to waste helping or posting something meaningful or interesting, it's just take take take with some people, they're just selfish a-holes and quite frankly a waste of skin and not worth bothering with.
Not really... the old system of feedback was completely horrible and there was no way to know if a transaction even took place. You had people posting negative feedback because they don't personally like someone, or you had people's friend's posting positive feedback without any transaction actually happening. That being said, what you are talking about are two different things though... the old feedback system was on the way out nearly 3 years ago... which should be plenty of time to discuss it. https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/transition-away-from-itrader.1942652/ The old feedback system was not replaced with "likes". It was replaced with something better that exponentially curbs fake feedback since now a transaction *actually* has to happen in order to give feedback. Again... likes have NOTHING to do with the transaction feedback system. You can give feedback if you were involved in a transaction with zero likes. Literally the only thing that changed was how an established member is defined... before it was that you had to make 25 posts over 2 weeks. Now you just have to post 1 thing that a couple users think is useful. While it's not a perfect measurement, it's infinitely better than the old system where you would get people signing up, posting 25 gibberish posts and then coming back 2 weeks later. If you can think of a better way to gauge who is a good user and who isn't, suggestions are always welcome.
Think it'll be useful to define a good user. 1) post regularly 2) post useful/interesting stuff 3) obey forum rules 4) Transact in marketplace honestly Anything else to add? I think such a definition will provide a basis for further feedback on how to separate a good user from a not-so-good one.
A definition is all fine, but how does one evaluate it? It would be so hard to do without some kind of system such as... likes! It's on the members to do it, but let's not forget this forum is free, so it would be insane to expect an army of people hired to evaluate each and every member constantly. The OP just needs a beer or five, to relax, take a step back, be objective and realise it's just three likes required from three individual established users. Sounds so simple and is. I honestly think Shawn should have set the bar higher. Now it's much easier and quicker to become established than before (and a much more sensible way). I imagine with the old system it would have been very easy to run some bots to spam and get established membership, then sell these accounts on to lazy people.
Yeah, I absolutely agree 100% on that one. Deviating from the thread slightly, i also think members with less than 3 likes should not be able to start more than 3 threads or make more than 3 posts a day, there was some spamtard who joined yesterday made 49 identical spam posts in a row!!