Calling pr experts....

Discussion in 'Google' started by Shoemoney, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #41
    Yeah, but between now and then he can take advantage of it and make some money, one way or another, or develop them and turn them into stable PR7 sites.

    Unlike you, Shoemoney has a large number of domains he can bring to bear on these ones to shore them up...
     
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    Tuning Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Yep, thats nice strategy. :) May be he can make it to PR8. ;)
     
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  3. Shoemoney

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    #43
    hopefully... I have this place and seo-guy to thank for everything I have built up over the last year. <3

    s$
     
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    aspcoder Peon

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    #44
    It looks to me, when number of outgoing links are less then 10 from your site, and u have 50 incoming links, u get higher PR then doing link building with 100 PR5 sites.
     
    aspcoder, May 6, 2005 IP
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    quattro Peon

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    #45
    What is the domain name ... I might be interested.
     
    quattro, May 7, 2005 IP
  6. Shoemoney

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    #46
    little late =)

    I already have sites on them all. Waiting to see if the pr propigates to internal links.
     
    Shoemoney, May 7, 2005 IP
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    #47
    shoemoney: It is possible for a site to get links from a lower PR site and get a higher PR than the sites linking to it. i.e. You might only need one PR8 link to get a PR7, three PR7 links to get a PR7 or 18 PR6 links to get a PR7 and so on. One simple proof: A PR10 site obviously doesn't have any PR11 links, right? :D

    Now, about sites that are not ranking well but are showing a PR on the toolbar. Well, the toolbar PR is not the same as the internal PR. If these are new sites (up to 6-8 months old) then these would probably have the same "internal PR" from the mid-Feb update. Although the toolbar was update a few days ago, an internal PR update has still not been done. So, one that's done (within the next few days) these "anomalies" will hopefully disappear.

    P.S: Just a word of caution. These co-op style scripts running from multiple ip addresses are effectively a link farm and I would be very cautious when purchasing such sites. Because, as soon as Google finds out they won't have a PR any more. In fact, they might not even be indexed any more.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #48
    Since by definition, none of us ever knows when "internal PR update" are done, how would you or any one else know this? Google knows... that's pretty much it.
     
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  9. dfsweb

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    #49
    Minstrel: This is based on stats compiled between 5 websites' (both new and old) rankings for a variety of keyphrases over months. The rankings vary all the time but show HUGE jumps every three months. Depending on how the number of IBLs have changed between these periods, the jumps vary between sites. Put two and two together: As sites are being crawled all the time, new IBLs by themselves don't seem to affect the rankings as much as a PR update does.

    You're right about the fact that nobody knows when the next PR update will occur. BUT, if Google are to follow the same pattern that they have followed in the past then we should have an internal PR update fairly soon (this week perhaps).
     
    dfsweb, May 8, 2005 IP
  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #50
    Oh dear Lord... here we go again... another PR insider prediction... *sigh*

    If it really makes you happy, dfsweb, predict away... maybe you should start a thread where you and bobmutch can battle it out for predicting updates plus or minus 6 months, if it pleases you. I'm sure whenever the Google guys come across another one of these posts they must giggle up their sleeves...

    What a waste of time and energy...
     
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  11. Shoemoney

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    #51
    interesting... I am really new to this. I at first entered the coop here at DP but then never saw any results... then thought to myself why dont I just make my own.

    Are you saying DP's coop is a link farm and likely to get you delisted from google?

    Atleast all my links are relavent and within the same industry. I got out of DP's coop when I started seeing "YOUR ADD HERE" on my site.
     
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    #52
    Yes and no! :) Google might NEVER have a problem with the co-op. On the other hand, they might band all co-op sites tomorrow. Who knows!

    The reason I left the co-op (after a 2 day trial) was because my site was being placed on random un-related sites and I didn't have control on which sites the ads were being placed. You could essentially build a rubbish site with thousands of crap pages and get an extremely high co-op weight and high rankings for competitive keywords that aren't even related to your site. This kinda behavious dilutes Google search results which is why Google crack down on such sites. But, as I said they might never do it.
     
    dfsweb, May 9, 2005 IP