Calling all UK SEOs. . .

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by EssEeeOhh, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    Ok - if you are active in the UK SERPs, you'll know things are a bit shaky at the moment. Sites simply disappearing & reappearing / US results flipping in & out / Completely unrelated results. . .etc

    I want to get as many opinions together as possible. While only Google knows whats going on - it would be beneficial to get some experienced brains together on this.

    Perhaps if you post your industry, what strange results you've noticed & what you think the cause is, we'll take it from there.

    Over to you. . .
     
    EssEeeOhh, Aug 17, 2009 IP
  2. BannerSpaces

    BannerSpaces Active Member

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    Well this is topical subject at the moment. I work in several verticals and all have seen some scary changes in 60% of them and I am expecting it to rise as they roll out these changes to the algo further. I have not come to any conclusions as yet so can't give you anything more to go on.
     
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  3. darrens

    darrens Peon

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    #3
    i have experienced this in great detail over the weekend.
    difference is ... i run 2 sites and both did well ...
    now only one does well and the other has hit rock bottom.
    drop me a pm to discuss ...
     
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  4. tom@totalodds

    tom@totalodds Peon

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    Hi,

    I run a few gambling websites and have been monitoring the serps closely, sites have been bouncing all over the show, the major thing i have noticed is to do with the 'Vince' update and google giving more authority and higher ranking to branded sites - in my case the online bookmakers, they are now making first page appearences for keywords that they never used to, im not sure if this will be a permanent thing as for a few search terms the bookmakers have taken half the first page ! Only google knows tho, on the upside the update should be over within the month.

    Tom
     
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  5. lightlysalted

    lightlysalted Active Member

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    personally i've not noticed any serious change in serps, things have been quite settled on my keywords.
     
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    infograb Active Member

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    Yeah i m 100% agree with EssEeeOhh, same problem i m facing with my adult lifestyle related sites which are .co.uk domains.

    I'm not able to understand what the hell :mad: is going on in google data base centers because in Google Analytics some kws i m seeing from where conversions is occurring but in those my site is no where in serps. :(

    How much we wait for google stability any time it is changing it's algorithms and due to that we are not able to fix our strategies..

    C'mon Google!!! Be stable mate!! Let SEO's should relax their minds we are out of our mind many times by seeing such blunder fluctuations in serps :mad:
     
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  7. indiglo

    indiglo Active Member

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    Am handling few health sites... and rankings are going worst in google SERPs on all the kws. I don't know why such changes are going on and on what basis. Can we say it Google's algo change ??
     
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    Yeah it sucks.

    Have been tracking this since May.
     
    searchcandy, Aug 17, 2009 IP
  9. farangkwaiyai

    farangkwaiyai Guest

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    I have been checking one of my sites every 30 minutes for the last week, and it dropped from 2nd place right to 18th place. Now it is coming back up again, now its back up to 9th (google.co.uk) I am nowhere to be seen for the search term on google.com.
     
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  10. alicbol1

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    I have heard the Google UK is updating and making some algorithm changes and the biggest affect will be Adult and Gambling orientated sites.
     
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  11. atniz

    atniz Well-Known Member

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    I think you should read about the Caffeine Upgrade on google search engine. This upgrade should have been taken place on .co.uk google by now.

    Everyone will be effected with this new upgrade. Not only .co.uk, other geo TLD google will be upgraded in a matter of time.
     
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  12. EssEeeOhh

    EssEeeOhh Peon

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    Firstly - Any Mods that are reading this - thanks for the infraction for 'Starting this thread in the wrong place'. If 'Search Engine Optimization' isn't the right place for optimising for Google UK SERPs, maybe you could be so kind to move this to the appropriate place, as from the response you can see it is very much an issue & something people want to discuss!

    Ok - I do a lot of work in the Finance sector & I have seen sites that have held top 3 positions for 6 months - 1 year+ drop on all terms to #300-700. They then come back a week later only to disappear again sometime later. This has been going on for the last 2 months.

    So first I think it must be a penalty. But why would the site come back so quick & keep coming & going? It can't be a manual penalty - that would require a re-inclusion request & it would take 3 months+.

    So maybe the sites are tripping some automatic filters? That's a possibility. But with so many sites (often authority sites) seeing the same problems - is it likely that they are all tripping filters? I find that unlikely!

    So maybe it is a glitch in the algorithm - seeing US results for localised UK searches on Google.co.uk while based in the UK is certainly a glitch! Maybe there are other issues that need ironing out with these new changes (The 'Brand' update and now 'Caffeine'). Can I be sure? No.

    I've also heard that Google has de-valued article marketing links (even so much as to penalise for over use). Could this be a factor? Possibly - though i'm not sure I agree 100% with it.

    I've noticed a lot of sites getting their PR slapped down too - sites that have been selling links. Is Google simply cracking down on this & reducing the juice passed through such links?

    There's a lot of possibilities - but nothing I can be concrete on. Any more thoughts? Opinions on mine?
     
    EssEeeOhh, Aug 18, 2009 IP
  13. BannerSpaces

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    Don't think it's to do with the devaluing of article links to be honest. I use a number of CO.UK sites to promote sites and even though it's not bet practice to cross footprints I have on a number of occasions especially on long tail keywords or local search terms.

    This would normally result in both sites dropping in rankings but I can confirm this is definitely not the case. It seems to be along the lines of individual links

    At a complete guess I think it is more to do with the link profile of a site and number of content pages in a site. I have really looked into keyword density as well and with the use of tools such as http://www.seoquake.com and http://www.wordle.net/ I have managed to gain a few positions just from keyword changes.

    With regards to UK search results site wide links and word press blogroll links have lost their weight last in my experience.
     
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  14. EssEeeOhh

    EssEeeOhh Peon

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    We're not talking about a few positions here - these sites are dropping 100s of places! Whatever the reason is, the results we are seeing in the UK SERPs are not 'normal' fluctuations - they are pretty messed up!
     
    EssEeeOhh, Aug 18, 2009 IP
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    Yes, I run a poker forum and a month ago I dropped from 5th to 55th. I'm now back at 5th and things are settling down nicely. Whatever happened seems to be fixed.

    p.s Unfortunately poker carries the stigma of gambling. Only those educated in the game realise that poker is a skill similar to stock broking.
     
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    I am keen to hear what google has to say about this...but we all know they will not give a straight answer.We have seen some major changes on our sites with very little sense behind it.
     
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    I have seen changes in google serps, as always, however, by ensuring freash new content, I hit number ones as regular as ever for my keywords.As brad callen wrote, create your pages for the long term and you'll be rewarded.
     
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  18. Cernus11

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    I've now dropped off completely from all rankings for my top keyword. Something is definitely up. I have a forum so the content is always changing and updating... This hasn't stopped myself getting possibly unindexed for the particular keyword.
     
    Cernus11, Aug 19, 2009 IP
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    My sites are doing well in the Google SERPs and I have hardly noticed much change in them. Well my sites are related to loans and finance. But yes one of my site is fluctuating in between the 5th and 10th position of the SERPs, possibly because of the problems that others are facing as well.
     
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  20. EssEeeOhh

    EssEeeOhh Peon

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    Guys, what this thread is about is 'issues' in the UK SERPS. Flux between 5th & 10th isn't an issue - it is normal & we've been seeing this for years.

    A site which has regularly been at #2 for over a year suddenly dropping to #700 for a week & then coming back (multiple times over a two month period) isn't normal - and there have been plenty of sites that this has happened to - not just one or two.

    US results appearing in localised UK searches isn't normal.

    It's not about 'fresh content', it's not about flux - something is broken!
     
    EssEeeOhh, Aug 20, 2009 IP