CAIR: Muslims Against Free Speech

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by KalvinB, Oct 3, 2006.

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    http://www.startribune.com/462/story/716339.html

    Maybe South Park can have an episode about Scientology v Islam

    It could end with the Muslims slaughtering the Scientology lawyers.
     
    KalvinB, Oct 3, 2006 IP
  2. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    Cair are a bunch of terrorists,plus i dont belive them on this "complaint" biz.
    Again and Again cair prove that they are liars and ruin everyone elses fun at the same time.
    SHAME ON CAIR.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    This is sadly a common tactic with CAIR. They bully any business who acknowledges the truth about islam.
     
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  4. Grafstein

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    Yep-Another great answer by GTech.
    Time for CAIR to grow up...
     
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    CAIR are basicly a bunch of bullys,they go to business that dont allow the wearing of headscaves,constant praying and dont allow the use of prayer rooms.
    They tell people to boycot these businesses by calling them "nazis","Facists" and "Islamaphobes" and making up ridiculous lies about them.
    Personally i see CAIR as the american chapter of al-queida,instead of taking over by the sword they take over with lies.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    How is this against the First Amendment?

    I think I am missing parts of the story. Here's what I saw:

    I. Radio show does skit against Islam.

    II. CAIR protests the skit.

    III. Radio station agrees that the skit was in poor taste and apologizes.

    Did I miss something?
     
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  7. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    The radio station had no reason to apologize. If the station hadn't apologized CAIR would have taken them to court and that would have been very expensive.

    You can listen to Free FM here in Phoenix and hear all kinds of a inappropriate sexist crap but nobody is forcing the station to apologize and stop.

    Scientology and Islam are the two main religions that abuse our legal system to get people to stop saying bad things about them.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Where did it say that CAIR was going to take them to court? Or are you assuming?

    Also, I still don't see a First Amendment violation.

    We have a free market society. The reason the radio station apologized is because they most likely deemed it best for business. There's nothing stopping you from forming your own interest group and sending out letters too.

    There was no legal abuse here--unless there's more to the story. You are upset and that's your right, but there's nothing illegal or abusive going on.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    CAIR does nothing to improve American<->Muslim relations. It simply serves to further aggravate Western thought by proving how narrowminded and bigoted Muslims can be.

    CAIR calls themselves the "Council on Awmerican-Islamic Relations", when they really should call themselves the "Council on American-Islamist Relations."

    Even Senator Chuck Schumer, a champion of left-wing anti-Americanism, says "we know [CAIR] has ties to terrorism" ... "intimate links with Hamas."

    Here's what Omar Ahmad, co-founder of CAIR says "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

    For more information on CAIR, visit Anti-CAIR.
     
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    Right again pal,this has got silly with CAIR,there a bunch or dickheads and people dont know about it.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    The liberal media keeps trying to present CAIR as "moderates", which is wholly innacurate.

    CAIR is just a political front for the Islamists.
     
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    Don't christian groups pretty much do the same thing? Except usually, instead of trying to restrict people from saying bad things about them(saying bad things about christians), they try to restrict people from saying/doing things that don't agree with their view(illogical view, since it's based on something they think an invisible man in the sky told them) of "morality" or "decency".

    I don't see why we should pick on muslims for doing this. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of islam...or christianity for that matter.
     
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    Atheists do the same thing. But only Muslims and Scientologists bust out the lawyers when you criticize them.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Got any proof of that statement?

    I know of one legal group that's there solely for Christians.

    Also, one could argue that the ACLU is another. They got to court and threaten all the time.

    Might be prudent to do a little more research.
     
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    Some athiests (NOT ME) work very hard to destroy peoples enjoyment of Christmas. That, to my mind, is fascist. When they do this, I leave the Athiest lines and wander over to fight alongside the Christians.

    They are trying to turn Christmas into a secular holiday. You can't even wish someone "Merry Christmas" without getting grief. "Happy Winter Holiday" just rings flat in my ears.

    For some reason, those weenies have not yet attacked Ramadan. Chickens. :D
     
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    I agree. Militant atheists piss me off sometimes.
     
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    But would christians behave the same way if they were a small minority? I can't really answer that but my guess would probably be yes.
     
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    Actually, I believe that the opposite is usually true. To quote Robert Heinlein, "Religious freedom in a cultural complex is inversely proportional to to the strength of the strongest religion."

    Islam is a bit of a corner case because (1) Islam is so strong in the regions which it dominates and because (2) Islam is actively attempting to extend it's dominance over the rest of the globe.
     
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    ACLU is an anti-christian organization - that is there thing - not civil liberties but anti-christian agenda.

    Sure there are legal groups there to protect Christians, there has to be when you have the aclu
     
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