buying visitors a bad idea?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by student-loans-4u, May 17, 2006.

  1. #1
    I started a website recently and I was think of buying visitors from eBay.

    I'm looking at buying 25,000.

    Does anyone here buy visitors for their adsense website?

    If so, what percentage of the visitors actually click the ads?

    Thanks guys. :eek:
     
    student-loans-4u, May 17, 2006 IP
  2. Gandalph

    Gandalph Active Member

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    Buying visitors is a bad idea when it comes in the form of "Buy a bazillion visitors/hits for 29,95". That traffic is worth ... nothing since it's either generated by bots or get-paid-to-surf programs. The so-called visitors don't actually DO anything on your site.

    If you're talking PPC, then yes that might work when you know your visitor value and pricing point. But since you mentioned ebay I don't think you are referring to this.

    Good luck with your site!

    Ps. if you don't know what PPC is, use the search button :) and you might read up on SEO then too lol
     
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  3. jackburton2006

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    Worth...LESS.
     
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  4. student-loans-4u

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    #4
    I was thinking of using PPC but i was not sure if it was against adsense policy...

    So I can use PPC for my adsense website?
     
    student-loans-4u, May 18, 2006 IP
  5. Gandalph

    Gandalph Active Member

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    yes, send traffic with pay-per-click programs is fine. The balance between what you pay for your traffic and the return for your adsense clicks is very delicate in most cases though.
     
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    So you're going to send traffic to your student-loans-4u site? (I'm assuming that's your site's URL, or else it's a really sucky made up handle) You sure you can convert enough to justify the expense of PPC?
     
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    #7
    Are you sure it was eBay which was offering 25,000 visitors?
    That would be curious if eBay would stoop so low as to sell untargeted traffic themselves, or was that perhaps some auction you saw there?

    Most of the places which offer those nice big rough 10,000 25,000 100,000 for $29 or $39 type deals are worse than worthless and can actually hurt your site.

    In the best case scenario you will get scripted traffic hits from bots, at worst you will get angry people seeing your site from spyware installations through 1pixel windows.

    It's funny though many of the advertise through PPC engines such as Google Adwords. :)

    In any case, I think this discussion is slightly offtopic to this area.
     
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  8. jackburton2006

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    Yeah, I think it was pretty obvious he was referring to an auction. ;)
     
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  9. student-loans-4u

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    Well, I think I'll have to calculate that one first of course... :)

    I use amazon, searchfeed, and adsense.

    yes, i offer free information on student loans.

    Is it worth it to do PPC if I don't sell products?

    I earn 4% - 6% on items sold from amazon from my site...Not much.
     
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  10. Gandalph

    Gandalph Active Member

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    ehh, my point exactly. Didn't take a look at the site :)

    I'd suggest calculating how much a visitor is worth and see if you even get any clicks for a lower price. Otherwise you're probably better off SEOing the hell out of the site for some google juice.

    It looks as you've got only other people's content on there, so you might look into investing some time or money in whipping up some original content.

    ...
     
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    Out of 16 clicks I've made $14.03.
     
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    #12
    not bad, but i'm guessing you don't have the traffic to have gotten smart priced
    try it...invest 50 bucks and see what happens
     
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  13. student-loans-4u

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    #13

    I've put together articles for the site with permission from authors...

    I thought it was a good idea...I guess not! lol
     
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    Buying traffic at a low price via Adwords to convert them via Adsense is pretty tricky. Most people who use PPC to sell high-ticket items that takes into account a large percentage of the traffic they buy, no matter how targeted, just won't convert/buy, but they count on enough people buying to justify the price of the traffic. Pretty tricky. It can be done, but, well, it's pretty tricky.
     
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  15. Gandalph

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    That's a nice epc, but to calculate if you're even going to profit you'll need the earnings and divide it by the visitorcount. You'll need a good sized batch of data to make an accurate estimate too, so if those 16 clicks came from 16 visitors, it's not really saying the next 16 visitors will also click on the ads.
     
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    lol...I am such a newbie loser!

    I don't know what smart pricing is!

    I'll have to look into that one...
     
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    Adsense CPC is also determined from quality of traffic.
    If you get these cheap visitors then you may not get even $0.01 for 10 clicks which can generate $0.5/click from quality traffic.
     
    Mong, May 18, 2006 IP
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    #18
    Good point! You're a smart cookie! lol
     
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    I've always made more than $0.48 per click...

    Why is that?
     
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    #20
    have you thought about putting up banners for a student loan affiliate program? i used to use financialaid.com but their program really started sucking badly last fall. but there are other that work well i could recommend.
     
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