Buying Servers

Discussion in 'Site & Server Administration' started by tdd1984, Jun 23, 2008.

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    I was just curious if there is a such thing as Desktop Computer (workstation) and Server Combined, but at the same time I can run Linux (redhat) for my server and xp for my desktop?

    Is there such thing?
     
    tdd1984, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  2. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    may be BUT
    would you want to have a damage NUKE and a hot wife in your bed at the same time ???

    since you apparently think about cheap low tech solutions for small traffic use
    think about using AN OLD PC as server
    and a regular PC for desktop

    considering the fact that desktop PC alone - without monitor and all extras - is just in the low few hundred $, even a new low cost desktop HW without all the extras may be a better solution for a low cost / low tech server solution at home than a mixed solution.

    mixed solutions ...
    keep in mind that working in desktop environment with XP or similar "damaged nukes" you get / download and create lots of malware/viruses and may cause crashes and freeze ups
    all affecting the server environment residing on same HW.
    such mixed solution on ONE HW invites merphy's law and it NEVER is a question of whether or NOT the solution works but ONLY how long it takes until things go wrong at the wrong time !!

    if you have low traffic requirements for a server - then even an outdated PC ( 2-3 years old in good shape ) may do, or an outdated laptop ...
    depending on precise volume of access / traffic in a home / small office environment.
     
    hans, Jun 23, 2008 IP
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    Camay123 Well-Known Member

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    Hans is right. An old machine with linux acting as a file server will not need much compare to a windows desktop.
     
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    tdd1984 Well-Known Member

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    I don't even think you guys know what I'm referring to. I never said nothing about a old machine, what I'm asking is there servers and desktops that are combined, so in other words server efficient, but at the same time great for the user.

    Also Redhat is what a lot of servers use its linux. You guys must be new to this?
     
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    Camay123 Well-Known Member

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    You were the one talking about xp and redhat. How do you think you will run this ? Let us know.

    ah. I know how. With a virtual machine such as VMWare ? But, im new to this, im not sure if it would work.
     
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    Hi,

    You could buy a high-end server machine and run one of the operating systems in a virtual machine. There are certain types of cards (PCI/PCI-E) that allow you to run a second "computer" within the same case and have the two interact with each other.

    http://www.killernic.com/products/default.aspx is an example of a specialized co-computer that runs a custom Linux distro to increase gaming performance.

    You will not find and retail systems with a co-computer as it isn't very practical for a number of reasons such as single-point of failure, cost, and need.

    You can dual-boot a system if you do not need Linux and Windows running at the exact same time but I'm pretty sure you want to have both running at the same time.

    I would recommend that use two computers and/or if you intend to host public sites on it look into co-location.
     
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    I think what everyone here is thinking the same, we are not sure why you would want such an arrangement, running a server and using it as a desktop has been done at home for many years, people have learned linux this way by running a vps with the OS of their choice on it.

    You also have a choice of setting up dual boot, meaning that sometime you run your desktop application and when done boot into your Linux server.

    Both options above are find and dandy for basic learning and maybe development, however any commercial hosting would have to be done in a data center, this is where you can either send in your sever to be colocated or rent a server as a dedicated or vps server.

    With dedicated or vps server you are limited to the Windows Sever or Web edition, you do get a remote desktop and it will function as if you were at keyboard, you can install and configure it however you want, you can also run a vps linux version of your choice on it as well and switch between the OS's to your liking.

    Well, I hope this is helpful to you, would like to see your reply
     
    Afazelpoor, Jun 24, 2008 IP