buying expired domains: what is good price?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by subseo, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    hopefully this is righ forum for that kind of question.

    I have no experience in this, but came around a chance of purchasing an expired domain. It has PR4, 334 backlinks according to MSN Beta Search, 70 according ot Yahoo, is registered in DMOZ. It has a parked page (was not shut down), over 3 years old, no content, former media market blog.

    Is $60 for that, including all the fees and domain prepayment for 2 years, a good price? I would guess yes, but just wondering after I have read the other domain related threads here.

    Second question, I could get a domain that was registered in 1997, personal development site, been run for few years, abandoned, then there was some adult content for a year or two, now it is available for registration for a year or so already. It has 8 links only.

    The question is, will buying an old domain help with search engine? My guess is, it will not? However just wondering as it is often mentioned that Google likes old sites better - it probably means sites, not domains? And being out of index for years is probably another disadvantage?
     
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  2. Josh

    Josh Peon

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    #2
    I would tend to shy away from buying 'used' domains, well, I would if they where expired and I had a project thats name was an expired domain or something. One, you never know what the owner did with it, he may have played around with some link exchanges in 'bad neighborhoods' and your PR may be fined because of that.

    Josh
     
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  3. schlottke

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    #3
    Your PR will be uneffected when the domain expires. I've seen rare cases where the URL kept the IBLs, PR, etc- but if you are not linking out to sites that have a bad track record, you will not receive any sort of penalty.
     
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  4. misohoni

    misohoni Notable Member

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    I think that price is ok. Have you seen sedo.co.uk ?
     
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  5. subseo

    subseo Guest

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    #5
    The old expired domain linked to "bad sites" in the past. Well after all I think it was a bad idea.

    But I have purchased the abandoned one with PR4. It was a blog in the past, and I will be blogging there as well, so with PR4 and listed in DMOZ blog category, I think I couldn't lose much, eventhough $60 is not a small amount for me at the moment.

    Thanks for the link tip. Many domains on sedo seem to be overpriced a bit, but in general it has some good info.
     
    subseo, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  6. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    #6
    I think $60 is a pretty good price, but as some of the others here have pointed out the site might have some "bad history" associated to it, which you should be wary of.

    As far as help with SERPs is concerned, the PR4 site does give you a bit of a headstart, as it is already Page Ranked and so, it will be easier for you to exchange links. The DMOZ listing will definitely help as well. Plus, I doubt if you will see the sandbox effect again on this site.
     
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  7. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Yeah, it's not a bad price at all. Especially since it's in DMOZ.

    But a bad history would put me off a little.
    If that is your whole budget, I would look elsewhere before buying it.
    After all, a question you always have to ask to yourself, if it's so good, how come is it still for sale?
    The DMOZ thing is much more interesting than the PR4, IMO, and prob makes it worth the money, after all.

    Anyway, you bought it already, right?

    Would you share with us the aftercome? how it peforms next?
    Thank you!
     
    uca, Jan 19, 2005 IP
  8. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Expired domains are definitely the last choice you should make, no matter what the previous owner did on the domains, you will have trouble to get indexed by Google (take several months at least), not to mention get the previous links.

    Now, if a com domain is a expired domain, I would rather register the net or org domain which has never been registered.
     
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  9. daboss

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    why is this so? i would have thought that google would be able to reindex relatively easily - i.e. about the same time needed to index a new site assuming that the inbound links are the same...
     
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  10. Monsieur

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    #10
    I don't with most of the other posts made here.

    Expired domains may not be that good for seo, but you can still capitalize in other ways from them.
    If it's not to sell 'em, then you could just 'park' them and might get some nice revenue of it just because of having it.
    I have registered and bought a few expired domains (but NOT for seo) and I would say I'm well off with it and I will keep trying to catch some nice bargains ;-)

    IMO your purchase was for a good price considering the backlinks.
     
    Monsieur, Jan 25, 2005 IP
  11. subseo

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    So far I think the domain purchase was good idea. The blog it hosted was registered/syndicated on lots of places, and I have seen my posts on lots of high quality websites as syndicated content, despite the fact that I have changed the main topic significanty.

    I have also used it rather succesfully for linking to my other projects, in that respect it paid of I think (looking into recently updated google directory), but will wait after Google update.

    The only problem is it is not visible in google when I type the domain name, which is a word unique to that domain, fifty sites appear before it. But that has to do with the current google updates and think will go back to normal in few days. (Google also shows the old content in results, when few days ago it was showing the new.)
     
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  12. Liminal

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    #12
    i think the fact that it's in DMOZ and has a PR4 is worth the money. if the domain "works" for your idea, get it. Once links from related sites start coming in, Google and other search engines will reindex (i believe) and the fact that the domain has a "bad" history will soon be your little secret

    However, there is another bit to consider: from my experience it's easy to change your site's description in DMOZ but is not easy at all to change the category (unless you are a DMOZ meta editor)

    hope this helps,
    james
     
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  13. subseo

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    Easy to change description? I would only do it if that would be for 100%, but at the moment I opted to let it be as it is for as long as possible. I have heard of a guy who changed description and he is out of DMOZ.
     
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  14. Liminal

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    Well, I requested to updated my sites category and description. The description was updated within a week but the catgory stayed the same.
     
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  15. subseo

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    I gues it depends on the editor. Myself I don't feel OK asking for a change at the moment, as I think I will be removed from the category, and approval in another can take 1 week, but 2 years as well.
     
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  16. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #16
    Good names are dropped everyday, you have to back order names you want or bid on them in competition with other name buyers or brokers.

    Some names go for peanuts and others are bid up real high.

    Digital Point has it's NAME STALKER software that can help folks track and bid on these names.

    Maybe Shawn will leave a link for it here.
     
    anthonycea, Feb 13, 2005 IP
  17. robertu06

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    If the domain name is available(if it is expired), just register the domain some where... where you find low price... Then you can transfer this domain to your prefered registrar...

    I use bbchost.com to register new domains..
     
    robertu06, Dec 7, 2009 IP