Buyer receives shipment after Paypal refund - How Do I get my funds?

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by sangs, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I am facing this peculiar problem.Please help!

    Paypal has refunded an amount to the buyer as he made a complaint of non-receipt of items.He initialy filed a case and Paypal ruled it in favour of the buyer.After that the courier delivers the consignment to the buyer within 3 days of the decision by Paypal.

    Now how do I retrieve my money from the buyer?

    Paypal says that :

    "What to Do Next
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    If you have proof of shipment information that shows that this item was
    delivered, you may appeal this decision. To do so, log into your PayPal
    account, click the Resolution Center link at the top of the page, and then
    click the Appeal button next to the case."


    But in my Paypal account page I do not find any TAB which says APPEAL.Please help me as how do I resolve this issue and get my money.
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  2. Hmmm..

    Hmmm.. Peon

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    #2
    You can't make appeal if the case is closed.

    Are you able to see that case in open cases ?
     
    Hmmm.., Feb 17, 2010 IP
  3. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    The case is closed.This is what Paypal sent me by mail :

    Hello ,

    After careful consideration of the evidence provided in the case detailed
    below, we have completed our investigation and decided in favor of the
    buyer. Under terms of our User Agreement, we have debited the following
    amount from your PayPal account as a refund to the buyer:
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    Transaction Details
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    Buyer's name:
    Buyer's email:
    Transaction ID:

    Transaction date:
    Transaction amount: XXXXXXXXXXXX
    Your transaction ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Case number: XXXXXXXXXXXX

    -----------------------------------
    What to Do Next
    -----------------------------------

    If you have proof of shipment information that shows that this item was
    delivered, you may appeal this decision. To do so, log into your PayPal
    account, click the Resolution Center link at the top of the page, and then
    click the Appeal button next to the case.
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    Due Dates
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    Provide additional information within 10 calendar days from the date this
    case was filed.
    -----------------------------------
    Other Details
    -----------------------------------

    To review the PayPal User Agreement, visit the PayPal site and click the
    "User Agreement" link on the bottom of any page.

    At PayPal, account security is our top priority. We investigate fraudulent
    buyers and transactions in order to protect the integrity of our payments
    network. You can help protect yourself by following the steps outlined in
    our Seller Protection Policy.

    To learn how to protect yourself from disputes, we recommend visiting the
    PayPal site and clicking the Security Center link located at the bottom of
    any page. There you will find information in the "Seller Protection Policy"
    section.


    Thank you for your patience and cooperation in this matter.

    Thanks,
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  4. iain123

    iain123 Well-Known Member

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    #4
    paypal are notorious for this m8
    they almost always side with the buyer
    trust me i lost hundreds the same way now i dont use them for it
    change your payment system to something else
     
    iain123, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  5. Hmmm..

    Hmmm.. Peon

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    what is the date of case filed ?

    I think you can only appeal within ten days.
     
    Hmmm.., Feb 17, 2010 IP
  6. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    #6
    what are the other better options which Ebay supports?
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  7. nucleus99

    nucleus99 Peon

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    Contact them by phone or email since you cant appeal the decision. I am sure they will be able to help you.
     
    nucleus99, Feb 17, 2010 IP
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    perfectblue Well-Known Member

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    #8
    This is very bad from paypal. They always support buyers :(
     
    perfectblue, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  9. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    Its only 6 days old but I am not able to see any appeal tab/button option available.Thats the problem.
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  10. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    Any idea what's their email address where I can contact them on this?
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  11. ceaseer

    ceaseer Peon

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    Can I ask if you shipped within 10 days of receiving payment? If you do not ship promptly even if you supply tracking to Paypal that the item was delivered they will side with the buyer.
     
    ceaseer, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  12. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    Yes it was shipped within 10days only.
    The issue is Paypal is mailing me an option to APPEAL but that option itself is missing in the link in Resolution Centre.And thats my concern.
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  13. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    Once I open the closed case there is an option showing up as RESOLVE COMPLAINT.After I click on that it takes me to a page where there is an option between :

    - I can provide tracking information.
    - The buyer has already been refunded and I can provide proof of the previous refund.

    When I click on the 1st option it goes to a page where by default the tracking number of the shipment is already recorded as provided by me before.Then I click on SUBMIT TRACKING INFO and it says "You did not enter a Tracking Number. Please enter a Tracking Number and then click 'Save."
     
    sangs, Feb 17, 2010 IP
  14. sangs

    sangs Well-Known Member

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    Can someone help me in this regard please?
     
    sangs, Feb 18, 2010 IP
  15. hhsaus

    hhsaus Active Member

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    Your best option is to call PayPal directly. When you call them do not take a NO for an answer! Be persistent! Ask to speak with a manager if you are not getting the right responses. Forget about email them. PayPal is notoriously famous for the total lack of customer service.

    In the mean time, email your ebay buyer, and kindly let them know since they have the goods that you are expecting them to make a payment in full, as it is illegal for them to obtain and hold goods by deception. Tell them they have 7 days to make a payment, otherwise a letter of demand will be sent and further fees (to cover your costs) will be incurred.
     
    hhsaus, Feb 18, 2010 IP