Bush says immigrants should learn to speak English

Ethanol will take sometime to do well here. High oil prices will definitely initatiate a lot of R&D/production in this area. Most likely we'll go to biodisel or switch-grass ethanol. I'm really hopefull of fusion...

If we didn't tarriff (ie tax) the living crap out of Brazils incoming ethanol it would actually be competitive in America. I believe in the pit of my heart oil nations hate Brazil for what it stands for. But the game eventually ends in change...I think.

 

Yeah I posted that in another thread. Thank Ohioans (ohians? neither sounds right) for that insane tax. Its like 52 cents or something, just to protect their interests

Personally, I wanna hear more about this:
http://www.asi.org/adb/02/09/he3-intro.html

 

I agree with you there. What I really find funny is how some protestors hold up the Mexican flag, while protesting in the United States. If Mexico is so great, why in the hell are they protesting here? If Mexico is so great, why are they in the US to begin with. The answer is because Mexico is not great. So why are they holding up Mexican flags?

The answer is because they can. Go to Mexico and hold mass protests, and they'll will bash your brains in. The same goes for China. The United States is one of the few countries that will allow illegals who are breaking the law to get out in the streets and protest it. If this were China, tanks and troops would arrest or kill the illegals, and that would be the end of it. And I don't even like the way the Chinese government operates.

 

Not only that, but any illegal immigrant in Mexico is automatically jailed for 3-5 years. While in the USA, Illegal immigrants in what are called "sanctuary cities" actually recieve WELFARE. Imagine that.

They recieve PRIORITY and free treatment in hospitals in Mexifornia, they go to our schools, and use our roads. Illegal immigrants commit crime at more than double the normal rate.

 

Land of the free, home of the brave? II's commit more crime. Do they? They receive priority in hospitals. Do they? They go to school and (god forbid) use the roads. Heavens to Murgatroyd!

Please show some documentation to prove that the hardworking and education obsessed Asians in your country illegal or not, commit more crime. Show proof that they receive preferential treatment in hospitals. You don't have to prove they use the roads. I am fairly sure that at least is accurate.

 

You don't mind paying taxes for roads, while they don't?
You don't mind paying taxes for schools, while they don't?
You don't mind paying taxes for their free healthcare?

You're so generous! Why not give them your house too? 30% of your income isn't enough?

You're right; Asian illegal immigrants don't cause much crime. It's the hispanic ones that do. Look at LA, there's your proof


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275
Hispanics get free healthcare! Like "Felipa" who cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000 in neonatal incubation. Our tax dollars at work.


Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement.

If that's not preferential; I don't know what is.

 

They do?

Damn, I wonder why my friend Leopoldo has insurance then. What a dumb ass!

Is that only Hispanics?

 

To be reasonable...statistically, the growing poverty rate is not in the African American community anymore, it will be in the latin community. Mostly due to mass immigration from southern and central america.

African Americans have steadily went down from 60% to 20% (since the 60's).

The latin community doesn't all get free medical, but legal and not legal they are the prodominate user (% wise) of free medical, and free government services. Legal latins actually use the most (% wise), because it's said that some illegals fear using the services...but I don't know.

 

The medical act he's reffering to isn't only applied to latin people, of coarse. Although many hospitals along the border have closed due to the obligations of free-services they had to do. See the federal government is not obligated to pay for those mandates, and it's fairly popular to have anchor babies to try to gain their own citizenship. Actually in many of those hospitals there's more anchor babies born than American babies born.

On March 19, 1999, Amy Dale of the Federal Bureau of Prisons
testified to the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on
Immigration and Claims about the fast-rising role of aliens in the
federal prison system.
As of now, aliens are 27.6% of inmates in federal prisons.
Only three years ago, they were 22% of federal inmates - and the
number of aliens in federal prison has jumped 116% in the past six
years to a current total of 33,250 according to Dale.

"Dale testified that the annual cost of incarcerating aliens in
federal prisons alone is $635 million."

That was in 99...so it's probably next to a billion. And that's for federal prisons only.

 

Wow. I wonder how long it will be before the US wades in to offer assistance and whether you avererage Joe and Jane Doe in America will know or appreciate it when USA gets first dibs on Mexican oil.

 

"According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system."


I read this from you article Cyprus...that's about right. I wonder why we pay high medical insurance!?...hmmmmmmm

 

I hope Mexico and Russia allow more private funding into their oil industries. It would help a great deal for them and for us. I do think it would reduce the problems we have in illegal immigration as well. Mexico can drill far more oil and use those revenues for more jobs and retention of population...they'll need it in the future.

 

I have to clarify myself in this thread. I am not pro illegal immigrants in the US, I am anti rascism in every country. I hate the fact that in the UK when they want to showcase failings in the prison system they do so by showing mugshots of blacks, browns and yellows. Not one lilly- skinned, son of the home soil despite the fact that they are throwing rapists and murderers out of jail faster than they can slam the little buggers behind barred doors.

What I hate is the narrow minded blinkers that suggest that everything that is wrong in your country is SEP. Somebody Else's Problem.

Bugger that bullshit that says the immigrants children should not be educated along with your own, that they shouldn't use the roads, that they have no right to medical care. The US is a great country and it will only stay that way if it remembers that it was built on the blood and sweat of immigrants.

Who are YOU, if not the scion of an immigrant somewhere down the line. Unless of course you are a full blooded Crow or Sioux but I doubt that.

What should make America great is the fact that that huge country has accepted the poor, the tired and the hungry for so many years that it is a big, larger than life, colourful blend of all peoples and cultures. You all wouldn't be where you are today if it was not for the influx of the Chinese, the Irish, the Dutch, the Italians ... ad naseum.

 

"The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans:

* Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops.
* Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies."
* Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.
* An end to amnesty programs."


Another thing from your article, Cyprus.

I would hope medical personel would support an actual border enforcement....their very livelyhood is at stake. If you give amnesty to these current illegals or you do even worse and approve the shamnesty and guestworker program to get millions more in, you'll see centralized medical in America...and taxes will be horrific.

I'd much rather immigrate doctors to this country than uneducated workers.

First, please state illegal (or undocument if your really wish to), so we're not mixing the two up.

Right to medical care, education, etc? Whom has to pay for these RIGHTS?

As a nation, America only immigrated from west europe for a while, because east europeans were considered backwards. The moment we opened immigration up in east europe, socialism took it's first peek in. As time progressed our bank system, tax system, and many things altered because of the incoming idealogies ie we're nothing like what we once were.

Now we have people exclaiming RIGHTS, when they don't even understand the basic concept of what that word means.

Even they migrated from Asia. There's plenty of claims that european bones have been found in America as well...some suggested to pre-date other native bones. Personally, I find this point unnessary. I don't care who was here first, we live in the current.

That whole quote was taken from a socialist (given me your tired), and so was the statue of liberty...neither of these people understood liberty themselves. The French Revolution was a sign of the utter stupidity of too much power in anyones hands....even the people.

Multiculturism doesn't make America great, it's a unifying value of liberty that makes America great. It's that very nature which makes it survive and thrive; Liberty and liberty alone. Without a culture that supports that, we are no-longer great.