Bush Must Go

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ablaye, Jan 15, 2007.

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  1. MrMOJO

    MrMOJO Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #41

    very good point.
     
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  2. northpointaiki

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    #42
    Ablaye - I ask you in sincerity. I once asked similar questions of another member of this site, but never received an answer; that member has since been banned, and no answer will be forthcoming. I ask you now, in all sincerity, without any desire to vilify any peoples, any faith - what is your response to the videos that Gtech has brought forward, and the sentiments they express?
     
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  3. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Well, sorry to disappoint you but according to any dictionary you can find in the world, Islam is a RELIGION, and so is Christianity and Judaism.
    And for your information, Islam is the second biggest religion after Christianity.

    Zionism is NOT a religion. It is an ideology, a very wicked ideology that I fear will cause a clash of civilizations.
     
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  4. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Then why is the US and Israel (which are mostly christian and jewish, respectively) called zionist regimes? Why death to the jews then? Why does islam want to wipe israel off the map? Furthermore, Muslims live in Israel...so do they want death to those muslims as well? whats the deal?
     
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  5. MrMOJO

    MrMOJO Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #45
    You guys hate the Jews so much that they can't even have less than one percent of desert land?

    You hate them so much that you blow up school busses, synagogs, churchs, airplanes, towers, embassies etc etc etc?

    and you say "it's because of zionism". I say bullshit.

    How about this. We begin hating islam the same way. We react to every verbal ourage your side has. Instead of two countries for two buildings, we make it 1 million muslims for 1 terror victim.

    According to YOUR religions ideology, thats the way things go, so how about it.

    Lets even the playing field.
     
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  6. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #46
    [​IMG] I wish I had drawn this...
     
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  7. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #47
    I don't know about the video. But what I do know and can tell is that there are some muslims who are really angry at seeing their lands being invaded and all the injustice that are subjected to, who are willing to resort to violence, including killing innocent people.

    Muslims and Jews used to live in peace in the Middle East. Jews in the Middle East were treated far better than their counterparts in Europe. All the trouble started when the West decided to hand over Palestinian lands to Jews and the European Jews moved in with their racist attitudes and their feeling of superiority over the native population.

    I do think that there will be peace once the evil ideology of Zionism that wishes to spread its hegemony in the Middle East is defeated. And from what I am seeing, more americans and europeans are waking up and seeing the injustice that is being committed in the Middle East.
     
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  8. MrMOJO

    MrMOJO Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #48

    You forgot to mention that we began invading your lands after your attacked us.

    Kinda an important point there that shouldnt be overlooked. Maybe next time (God forbid) you guys will slap the shit outta the wacko's that dance on the street because innocent people were murdered?
     
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    #49
    you mean like Saddam did...
    before or after they kidnapped Jewish soldiers this past summer for no reason?? btw....the jews were there long before Israel was a state...
    You mean death and destruction to Israel. You are nothing but a terrorist supporter.
     
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    #50
    Let me say it plainly. I believe we in the west have blown it with respect to Islam and muslims worldwide. I'd like to think we can all sit across from each other, and make a world of lasting peace. I don't believe such a thing is possible until we - all of us - acknowledge the evils we have done, and seek to build a peace based on mutual enfranchisement and hope.

    But, I must ask again. Respecting the video and the sentiments expressed therein -

    I invite you to form an opinion.
     
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  11. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Britishguy,

    Back in November 2002, my wife and I did meet with Tony Blair and had a brief chat. That was before the Iraqi colonial invasion. I found him to be extremely charming and a decent person.
    However, my opinion of him has since changed. Have I known what I know you, I probably would not have met with him.
    I think Tony Blair was decent when he started office but hanging out too much with the wrong crowd (that plus having a feeling of inferiority towards americans) has turned him into a corrupted leader.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #52
    I think that it is possible as long as we in the West don't let Israel dictate our foreign policies or use us against one another.
     
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    #53
    Ablaye, we seem to be missing each other.

    There were sentiments expressed on the videos posted by Gtech.

    What is your opinion of those sentiments?
     
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    #54
    So now you know tony Blair personally? wow, arn't you special.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #55
    But it was not theirs in the first place.
     
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  16. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #56
    Ah, the islamphobic zionist trolls of the forum!!!
     
    ablaye, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #57
    It's kinda hard to open threads about Christians and Jews chopping peoples heads off or blowing up kids, treating women like shit, etc... when that appears to be a rarity.


    Yes, I know.. Jews are bad. Silly me.
     
    Mia, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  18. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #58
    Infractions dealt....

    Thread closed.....

    :rolleyes:
     
    Crazy_Rob, Jan 16, 2007 IP
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