Hey, I don't know what you're talking about. All I hear from that nutjob Cyrus is -- "This message is hidden because Cyrus255 is on your ignore list." All day.
Rick, if your quote -is what you're referring to, no, I wouldn't call that condemning a nazi for what he is. I'd call it saying: "I'm not sure if your viewpoint - that jews run a state media, are responsible for a global class warfare, and want the destruction of the middle class - is wrong." So, I have a hard time buying the absolutely deafening silence in condemning this pointy headed idiot when I see so much acerbic posting pointing the other way. For a moment, forget the vile nature of his hatred for jews; I would think, on a libertarian basis alone, so many here who have so passionately put forth their belief in individual liberty against all other virtues would come out guns blaring re: this guy's oxymoronic "confederate fascism." Not a word.
No, you're taking that too far. I delve into conspiracy theory, and I find that most times there are a few true things out of everything...not necessarily what you're asserting of my comment. I know quite a bit about the (semi) private banking system that we once had, and it's transfer to centralization was indeed influenced by some influential families. All this is the nature of power more than anything and has little to do with race, since even at our founding attempts at centralization were constant. But the whole idea this is big conspiracy by Jews is just that--conspiracy theory. The Jewish culture is a successful culture in general, and I'm sure that in any given race there's some bad people. I actually visit many web groups where I don't share any of the general feelings of the group. A good example is stormfront. I like to examine the mindset of people, and try to understand why they come to that assessment. I try to maintain a certain level of civility till it appears I'm not getting that in return. Many times when I'm speaking to mystics they may believe I'm of their nature or kind, but I'm merely digging their brain. Not everyone has to seek the same method. In politics...equal and opposite reactions apply. People that believe in fascism usually have their socialists enemy and visa-a-versa. People that believe in fascism are such a minority in clear perspective. That might explain why your not hearing much against him. I've comment once on the 9/11 threads,....why? Because I don't believe it deserves that much attention. As much as I disagree with Fascism, racism, etc., I think they're that much out of style. I can argue with everyone, but I chose my battles, and I don't really think this ones worth it (with him). I've heard far more worse thoughts on Stormfront, and while I don't agree with them I'm not declaring war. Our founder each faced big moments in their life where their own reputation relied on picking battles...fortunately most of them stayed out of the rough. Out of curiousity did you vehemently go after those conspiracy theories on 9/11? Did you denouce them....?
Fair enough, and thank you for your thoughts, Rick. I better understand where you are coming from. No, I didn't vehemently go after the conspiracy theorists. If you were to read through my posts (I wouldn't bother), you would likely find I detest "vehemently going after" anyone, generally. The key distinction, for me, is between the hopelessly illogical and the hopelessly hateful. Cyrus' hatred is in another league, from the view of my personal prism.
Cyrus255 have been changing colors like a chameleont since he came here. I wouldn't be surpriced if he would have a completly different opinion a few weeks later.
I think cyrus' opinion on something changes depending on the quality of crack he is smoking on a given day
Your welcome--anytime. Well, if it suits you to feel and do that...then more power to you. Far be it for anyone to call me dogmatic,...I like a variety of positions and manners. It's pleasant not to know the reactions of others, and believe me deep inside certain perspective make me feel similiar to what you wrote. Sometimes they come-out as well. : )
Given 5 minutes, any rational mind can flip the fanatic to an opposite course - where they remain just as certain of the rightness of their cause, till the next tidal shift.
I've noticed (before I put him on my ignore list) that Cyrus' "opinions" are regurgitations of whatever Internet video he saw 5 minutes ago.
I see that you didn't got my point. I don't see Bush as a fascist, nor as an oppresser. I see him as a leader with a very difficoult job in front of him. I see that he takes responsibillity for that. But Cyrus thinks that Bush is a fascist and like fascism. So he could either like Bush or like his enemy extremists(wahabbists) which he has critisized before. But mayby he choosed the dual anti-semitic part, anti-moslem&anti-jew.. right?
I see that Bush has librated two countries. I think it is enough for a generation let alone 1 person. My english is not very good. Anybody expert in English here? Considering what I can see with my own eyes, do you think I should see Bush as a liberal? .
He's liberal in some ways, and conservative in others. The first neo-cons were actually socialists with aggressive foreign policy beliefs. The influence seem to weed it's way in.
You don't know what it means to be American do you? I remember the forefathers who bled and died for this country, and what they believed in. "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in . . . It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America." - President George Washington Source for disbelievers: Maxims of George Washington' by A. A. Appleton & Co. Benjamin Franklin's prophecy at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race. If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention." - Benjamin Franklin Philadelphia, 1787 Maybe you should remember your forefathers. I remember mine.
Nice cut and paste, and from such quality sources, too! Did you come up with this all by yourself, or did you have some help? Give me 5 minutes and you'll become a card carrying member of Friends of the IDF and street soldier for the anti-defamation league.
I'd like to know where you got the idea that fascism was efficient? Slavery isn't economically viable..
I began my political journey as a John Kennedy Democrat, as did most New England college kids in the 1960s. When the Democrats steadily moved way to the left of where JFK had been, I bailed out and joined the Republican party. Now, lo and behold, the GOP has moved to the left of where John Kennedy was in the early 1960s! My wife and I have made the decision to leave the Republican party and register Independent. I can't think of a single Democratic politician that I trust. And I can only think of a small number of Republican politicians that I trust. I'm sick and tired of having whichever "my party" is assume that I'll faithfully vote the party ticket. From now on they'll have to earn my vote in the arena of ideas, not by poll-influenced political rhetoric.