Bush's liberal achievements! Liberals praise your leader! He has done more for the liberal cause than any other since FDR! Bush has created a massive government. Centralizing the CIA, FBI, NSA, Army, Air Force, and Navy into one organization. Bush's medicare proposal is three times bigger than Al Gore's in 2000. Bush has promoted and vastly increased spending Bush has left our borders open, while decrying terror threats. Bush is arguing for amnesty with a weak immigration stance. Seriously, how much more liberal could he get? Why are liberals complaining? Aside from walking in a rainbow parade for gays, he couldn't do much more...
Good point. I've being saying the same thing all along. In reality, liberals and Conservatives are controlled by the same people. This week, Hillary Clinton was at a party at Fox News with Rupert Murdoch. How much more obvious is it than that?
Yeah, can't get more obvious. I wonder when the American people will wake up though. Time for a successful independent bid for the presidency... or we need to vote in an unexpected nomination like Tom Tancredo. Someone who has spoken out against the New World Order cult in the government as Representative Tom Tancredo has. As a sample, "We are the Party of the US – not the UN." "We are a nation under God – NOT a nation under a new world order." I fear the USA will give up their freedoms when Bill Clinton becomes UN Secretary General, especially if Hilary wins in '08 as planned.
As a friend said to me....Liberal are becoming increasingly socialistic...and Republicans are becoming old democrats. And real conservative seem only to be regular people for the better part,...politicians have left you. The cling to some of your issues, but that's it.
Time for a third party. The two party system allows for way too much collusion and conspiring against the public. They have polarized capitalism and communism, left and right, so much that people don't realize that neither of those choices works well for the people. Capitalism is about maximizing profits, and abuses the lower-to-mid classes. Communism is about greed, and abuses the higher-to-mid classes. Only fascism as an economic third choice works efficiently. Fascism is all about efficiency, and using the nation's resources for the common good. Granted with total efficiency, you get total power, so in order to avert crisis, it would have to be a confederate fascism, with power relegated to the states, and down to the lowest levels, with the top levels holding little or no real power. However the Jew-run state media who runs our banks, would never want to stop their goal of class warfare, and destroying the middle class. Even Lou Dobbs rants on about the destruction of the middle class. Globalism is a scheme to depress wages and bring about a two-class system: the Nobles and Commoners. Haves and Have-nots.
Yes, Bush is more liberal, that's why Osama Ben Laden like him. haha No offense, the way Bush leads the country could harm US more than other president.
There's so many laws and rules that go against a third party. It would really require one party to die a slow death. I think they both like the status-quo, despite the facade. Without the illegal immigrants getting amnesty, I foresee the democrats dying....long range perspective. Imply it turns into 3/4's dem, 1/4 green/socialists. At one point I could see the Conservative making their own party. The arguement would be best gauged from the need of government to the lack of that need....per issue. Capitalism is the desire for minimal government, but it hasn't quite been understood how to get the results but avoid business involvement in the government. It's initial start in any country finds it meshed within government entities...to a general level I respect liberals for not being as idolizing of business as other ie corruption can happen within any powerful group. Communism is the foolishness to believe that everyone will follow the same morals , and that alpha males will give-up their power struggle. I disagree with the fascism part. I think a government with highly limited federal powers, but more local powers would be something to entrust. It should limit the powers of the people, government, and businesses on a federal level; while allieviating a bit of those powers locally. Frankly our Constitution in it's originality wasn't far from it. I know a lot about our centralized banking system, but what you're saying sounds more like conspiracy theory on the Illluminati. I'm not say you're right or wrong...just say it sounds like it. Well,....I think massive immigration will lead to higher poverty rate if they're considered citizens ie if they get amnesty. Free-trade (excluding immigration) is a process we've been going through for sometime. Britain use to hate us because we were the cheap labor,... the US hated Japan because they were the cheap labor...now we hate China because they're the cheap labor. The goal is to keep our country an educated and wealthy one. If we let this immigration thing ride us into the grave, then we'll deserve it.
WTF??????? Didn't we already kick your ass, Adolph? Absolutely agree. Which is why I've said elsewhere, we've never had capitalism. With heavy capital aggregated and having gotten in place "meshed within government enties," the structure of markets is set - particularly labor markets.
I'm not leftist. I'm rightist. Bush is a liberal. HELLO?! Bush's system, like liberals before him, is really capitalism with massive handouts to the poor at the expense of the middle class. I'm running a business nearing into my first million soon. Corporate fascism all the way. Corporations, namely DuPont and others, were the biggest backers of the 1934 USA fascist coup attempt against FDR, led by General Smedly Butler. Corporations however, are all about their shareholder's interests, not the interests of the nations, and as such must be forced to a greater standard of efficiency. I, ironically merely sympathize with the "commoners". The best system for EVERYONE is Fascism, which is about efficiency. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and so it must be absolutely dispersed, hence a Confederate Fascism, where power is relegated to the states, and the lowest levels. However, if the people don't want their freedom, that's their choice. They can live their sedated, commercialized lives. I only live in the US half of the time anyways, so I'll just leave if I don't want to put up with this politically correctly strangled nation.
Well, Right now Bush has created more enemy by starting war at another country, that why the problem started. Old wise man says "Don't create problem if you don't want the problem"
You think the majority of those people (ie the insurgents) didn't already hate us? The military thinks they're mostly composed of 1)Saddam loyalists 2)Al Qaeda 3) The Medhi Army 4)Foreign fighter from Iran, Syria, Sudan, Yemen and Algeria (roughly 10% of the insurgency) I didn't really want this war to start in the first place, but I tend to think it helps congregate all the asses into a solid target for our soldiers. IF you're one of those people that solely believe our involvement in the middle east with Iraq and Israel makes us a target...and that if we leave they'll just forgive and forget...then I would ask you to look at the history of extreme muslim thought and how this is only a small factor in the insanity that has enveloped the world. It's been going on for ages... From the Philliphines, Indonesia, India, France, Sudan...the list goes on and on. Yes, I realize we've pissed off a few people that may have otherwise not cared before hand...but this hatred is far past Iraq and not remotely related. I'd much rather face this enemy squarely than continue appeasing it...for some, they will only be happy when they are up in heaven with allah via a mushroom cloud. You can't blame Bush for starting that, and that's much more of a threat by far.
9/11 was in 2001. Bush invaded Iraq in 2003. Tell me how "the problem started" when Bush invaded Iraq again? Or is that type of LOGIC too difficult for you to comprehend?
I am wondering one thing - when a member like yo-yo posts something outside the pale of most center-right beliefs, he is roundly excoriated on this forum. When a nazi like Cyrus posts his bile of hate, and argues for fascism, for god's sake, there isn't a single peep. My dad, among others, fought to preserve a way of life that did not include rendering to the state myself and everything I believe in, and that did not include rounding up Jewish citizens as members of the "jew run state media" at the head of "global class warfare." The hypocrisy is shameful.
By escaping the problem does not solve the problem. Thats like saying life is too harsh so I will put a gun to my head and end it all. What you say is cowardly and you do sound like a cowardly fascist. Run, run. What if where you are going you will have the same problems? Run until there is no other place to run? You should fight for your beliefs and your right to live. Running will only get you temporarily farther from a permanant problem that needs to be taken on head on.